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Evernote is so good that I just can't see myself transitioning. I wish the best services would offer strong encryption as a default.

by s_q_b 11y ago

afro88 11y ago
This is the game these companies play - they provide a service so slick that people will use it regardless of the privacy concerns. And of course I am one of those people... I use Evernote because I can take notes anywhere very easily (in my browser, my OS, my phone) and then have access to them always in sync very easily, online and offline. Couple that with nested tags and saved search queries and I unfortunately see no competition, regardless of privacy measures. I don't care if my data is encrypted properly if I don't have easy access to it.
- s_q_b 11y ago
  I'm in the same boat. I know the risks, but I've essentially entrusted my entire online presence to third-party services. Why? Simply because they are better. Ugh, this isn't acceptable.
  - mrmondo 11y ago
    Out of interest, do you think they are mostly better or easier? I guess it comes down to weighing the cost of your time / effort into researching / using alternatives vs the risk of trusting random people from the internet - of course there's no one answer or solution so it's probably case by case depending on the data being transferred or stored IMO.
- mrmondo 11y ago
  Like almost all 'cloud' services, I treat all data in Evernote as non-confidential and thus don't keep private information within it and I take regular backups. Do I trust a hobby / standard web-dev project as any more secure just because they day it is and might have an extra layer of encryption - no.
  - orthecreedence 11y ago
    This is important: there's a trust barrier to entry here. Why trust some random guy on the internet? You wouldn't. Nor would I expect anyone to actually pour through the source code to determine if the crypto is sound. Sometime soon I'm hoping to get enough cash rounded up for a security audit and get a few thumbs up from the security community so at least you won't be taking my word for it. Not only that, I'd love to make the product rock-solid. As much crypto as I've studied in the past few years, nothing beats an expert looking things over.

Evernote is so good that I just can't see myself transitioning. I wish the best services would offer strong encryption as a default.

by s_q_b 11y ago

Evernote is so good that I just can't see myself transitioning. I wish the best services would offer strong encryption as a default.

afro88 11y ago

This is the game these companies play - they provide a service so slick that people will use it regardless of the privacy concerns. And of course I am one of those people... I use Evernote because I can take notes anywhere very easily (in my browser, my OS, my phone) and then have access to them always in sync very easily, online and offline. Couple that with nested tags and saved search queries and I unfortunately see no competition, regardless of privacy measures. I don't care if my data is encrypted properly if I don't have easy access to it.

s_q_b 11y ago
I'm in the same boat. I know the risks, but I've essentially entrusted my entire online presence to third-party services. Why? Simply because they are better. Ugh, this isn't acceptable.
- mrmondo 11y ago
  Out of interest, do you think they are mostly better or easier? I guess it comes down to weighing the cost of your time / effort into researching / using alternatives vs the risk of trusting random people from the internet - of course there's no one answer or solution so it's probably case by case depending on the data being transferred or stored IMO.
mrmondo 11y ago
Like almost all 'cloud' services, I treat all data in Evernote as non-confidential and thus don't keep private information within it and I take regular backups. Do I trust a hobby / standard web-dev project as any more secure just because they day it is and might have an extra layer of encryption - no.
- orthecreedence 11y ago
  This is important: there's a trust barrier to entry here. Why trust some random guy on the internet? You wouldn't. Nor would I expect anyone to actually pour through the source code to determine if the crypto is sound. Sometime soon I'm hoping to get enough cash rounded up for a security audit and get a few thumbs up from the security community so at least you won't be taking my word for it. Not only that, I'd love to make the product rock-solid. As much crypto as I've studied in the past few years, nothing beats an expert looking things over.