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I have trouble believing your story (assuming it takes place in the states ...) - do you have any more details? It's (thankfully) really hard to win an unfair

by smanek 17y ago

I have trouble believing your story (assuming it takes place in the states ...) - do you have any more details? It's (thankfully) really hard to win an unfair dismissal suit since we're all 'at will' employees by default. You can fire someone because you don't like their shoes, don't like that they smoke, or even no reason at all (the handful of exceptions are 'protected categories', like race/religion).

jbellis 17y ago
> we're all 'at will' employees by default IIANM this depends on your state in the USA.
- cschneid 17y ago
  Being curious, I looked it up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment#Specific_states http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment#Specific_sta...
- smanek 17y ago
  Right you are. I've worked in 3 states, and they all work that way, so I mistakenly generalized. Some research suggests that it really varies state by state (even the states that are generally 'at will' each have different exceptions) - so caveat my statement as appropriate for your state.
brc 17y ago
No, it is not in the USA. I can't post any more details because I doubt the particular business would appreciate it being discussed online. However, I can assure you that it is very much true, right down to the employee being fired after the christmas break. The workplace in question closes down for two weeks after Christmas and the employee was kept on full pay, and dismissed upon their return to work. This was because nobody wants to fire someone just before Christmas, when their chances of getting a new job are slim. In this country, you can't fire an employee for any reason other than non-performance of written job duties, and only after three written warnings, and a whole pile of other paperwork. It's easy to get this wrong, and then open yourself up to unfair dismissal actions. The union representatives actively look for these types of cases to prosecute.
- smanek 17y ago
  Ah, fair enough. I (mistakenly) assumed it was in the US - it sounds much more reasonable if it took place elsewhere.
- aaronblohowiak 17y ago
  "In this country, you can't fire an employee for any reason other than non-performance of written job duties, and only after three written warnings, and a whole pile of other paperwork. It's easy to get this wrong, and then open yourself up to unfair dismissal actions. The union representatives actively look for these types of cases to prosecute." I'm pretty sure that this varies by state.

by smanek 17y ago

jbellis 17y ago

> we're all 'at will' employees by default IIANM this depends on your state in the USA.

cschneid 17y ago
Being curious, I looked it up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment#Specific_states http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment#Specific_sta...
smanek 17y ago
Right you are. I've worked in 3 states, and they all work that way, so I mistakenly generalized. Some research suggests that it really varies state by state (even the states that are generally 'at will' each have different exceptions) - so caveat my statement as appropriate for your state.

brc 17y ago

No, it is not in the USA. I can't post any more details because I doubt the particular business would appreciate it being discussed online. However, I can assure you that it is very much true, right down to the employee being fired after the christmas break. The workplace in question closes down for two weeks after Christmas and the employee was kept on full pay, and dismissed upon their return to work. This was because nobody wants to fire someone just before Christmas, when their chances of getting a new job are slim. In this country, you can't fire an employee for any reason other than non-performance of written job duties, and only after three written warnings, and a whole pile of other paperwork. It's easy to get this wrong, and then open yourself up to unfair dismissal actions. The union representatives actively look for these types of cases to prosecute.

smanek 17y ago
Ah, fair enough. I (mistakenly) assumed it was in the US - it sounds much more reasonable if it took place elsewhere.
aaronblohowiak 17y ago
"In this country, you can't fire an employee for any reason other than non-performance of written job duties, and only after three written warnings, and a whole pile of other paperwork. It's easy to get this wrong, and then open yourself up to unfair dismissal actions. The union representatives actively look for these types of cases to prosecute." I'm pretty sure that this varies by state.