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Just as a note, as I know nothing about your or your situation, but reacting angrily will NOT help any impressions you are giving. Frankly, when someone tells
by ergothus 11y ago
Just as a note, as I know nothing about your or your situation, but reacting angrily will NOT help any impressions you are giving.
Frankly, when someone tells me they work in a tech place where women are successful, I'm jealous. So if you want to point out that there is some hostile bias at work and not just the lack of hostile environments that drive women away from so many places, you need to prove that. Coming across as a woman-hating man does not accomplish this (Again, I don't know you, I'm only saying the impression you are giving).
- oh_sigh 11y ago> Frankly, when someone tells me they work in a tech place where women are successful, I'm jealous. I think the key there is "where women are successful *at mens expense" (feel free to swap the genders as well).
- pc86 11y agoWell promotions are by definition zero sum. Promotion of any individual is at the expense of every other qualified individual who wanted the job.
- oh_sigh 11y agoYou're assuming there is a fixed pie. What if the company is growing?
- pc86 11y agoIt's still zero sum for the current employees. Only the following scenarios are possible whether a company is growing or not: 1. Nobody gets the promotion 2. Somebody outside the company gets the promotion 3. Somebody inside the company who isn't me gets the promotion 4. I get the promotion With the exception of #1, I only get the promotion at the expense of my coworkers (who want and are qualified for the job). Edit: Put a better way, it is zero sum because you and your coworkers cannot equally share in the benefits of a promotion.
- ergothus 11y agoOh yes, I'm just saying when you are claiming that a normally (relatively) priviledged group is being discriminated against, you have a certain perceptional burden of proof, and being angry doesn't help make your case.