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Somewhat, but we are only talking about Republican voters here. The problem with Jeb is he got slammed with Common Core (a big no-no with Republican rank-and-f

Somewhat, but we are only talking about Republican voters here. The problem with Jeb is he got slammed with Common Core (a big no-no with Republican rank-and-file) and his dumb attack on Rubio. He is not really regarded as a conservative and really doesn't know how to energize voters. It doesn't really help that many of his backers are regarded as "establishment" and that is really ticking off the local voters since they seem to squander every opportunity given. You can see some of this split in the opinions about Fox News and the, hell with it, Trump voters. His child on the other hand will probably do very well when he runs for national office as he has the charisma his father lacks. One thing about watching this stuff from the outside, understand the media is primarily coastal-based and their opinion of either President Bush probably is not reflective of the voters in Iowa. Look at a county election map of the US for some insight. I would also say Nate Silver is doing a pretty good job of it again.

hga 11y ago
He also quite explicitly said we need Latin American immigrants because we natives aren't as entrepreneurial as they are, a very bad position for this election, and something the base has been in frank revolt about since his brother's big 2006 push. And, yeah, he was the anointed establishment candidate, raised 103 million for his super PAC in the first half of 2015, none of those play well in this election. He's much more hapless than his brother on the campaign trail, as noted by others we've had enough of the Bush family, etc. etc.
- protomyth 11y ago
  His brother was a master at the campaign trail (and his wife did very well herself). I know people don't like his policies or him personally, but people should understand how good he was meeting people and doing the campaigning. Its very much like Republicans who don't get President Clinton.
  - hga 11y ago
    Hmmm, I'm not sure, I was rather distracted in the 2 presidential campaigns his brother ran, but I don't think those they were masterful. My impression is that he himself is maybe merely good and not at all "hapless" ... and that aspect of politics doesn't do much for me. Heck, the first presidential candidate I rooted for was Nixon ^_^! (When I was 7, but still did so 4 year later when he ran against McGovern.)
    - protomyth 11y ago
      I'm more talking the charisma route - watch him work a crowd. Jeb does not have that. Actually, watching Bush and Clinton work a crowd is pretty interesting since they appear together a lot over the last couple of years. I remember Ford/Carter and I didn't really like Carter since he was sad all the time (I was 6). I did get to see Ross Perot's speech in Fargo, ND for the 1992 campaign. I was amazed at the lack of visible security and his stage presence given how he sounded in interviews.
  - finid 11y ago
    > His brother was a master at the campaign trail Really! Master at what? Endless supply of comedic material...

hga 11y ago

He also quite explicitly said we need Latin American immigrants because we natives aren't as entrepreneurial as they are, a very bad position for this election, and something the base has been in frank revolt about since his brother's big 2006 push. And, yeah, he was the anointed establishment candidate, raised 103 million for his super PAC in the first half of 2015, none of those play well in this election. He's much more hapless than his brother on the campaign trail, as noted by others we've had enough of the Bush family, etc. etc.

protomyth 11y ago
His brother was a master at the campaign trail (and his wife did very well herself). I know people don't like his policies or him personally, but people should understand how good he was meeting people and doing the campaigning. Its very much like Republicans who don't get President Clinton.
- hga 11y ago
  Hmmm, I'm not sure, I was rather distracted in the 2 presidential campaigns his brother ran, but I don't think those they were masterful. My impression is that he himself is maybe merely good and not at all "hapless" ... and that aspect of politics doesn't do much for me. Heck, the first presidential candidate I rooted for was Nixon ^_^! (When I was 7, but still did so 4 year later when he ran against McGovern.)
  - protomyth 11y ago
    I'm more talking the charisma route - watch him work a crowd. Jeb does not have that. Actually, watching Bush and Clinton work a crowd is pretty interesting since they appear together a lot over the last couple of years. I remember Ford/Carter and I didn't really like Carter since he was sad all the time (I was 6). I did get to see Ross Perot's speech in Fargo, ND for the 1992 campaign. I was amazed at the lack of visible security and his stage presence given how he sounded in interviews.
- finid 11y ago
  > His brother was a master at the campaign trail Really! Master at what? Endless supply of comedic material...