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Maybe I'm not understanding this right but it seems like the EU has decided to trust US government agencies to provide adequate oversight/policing of European's

Maybe I'm not understanding this right but it seems like the EU has decided to trust US government agencies to provide adequate oversight/policing of European's data usage in the US with only very minimal EU involvement. Impossible for us to know exactly but that's how it comes across to me in the article. Seems like it would make more sense for the EU to police this exclusively or to have their own ombudsman rather than relying on the US one to be impartial.

x5n1 11y ago
American companies don't do that for US citizens, or pretend to comply but don't do so really. Seriously, Americans don't trust their own government or any corporation with with any data. And they have very good reasons to do so, because those corporations and the US government will use that data for anything whatsoever that they feel is protecting whatever laws they have come up with and instituted. Whether that's for actual criminal activities, protecting intellectual property, or even protecting American corporate or economic interests. American corporations will use that data to sell people more stuff and build as detailed of a profile on them as possible. How a third party does so is beyond insanity to me. It's not reasonable at all. Period.
- mineshaftgap 11y ago
  Because it is all fake. EU govs give the US what they want and all this is for show. EU has outsourced defense and intelligence, they just have to keep that fact from the populous.
- serge2k 11y ago
  > Americans don't trust their own government or any corporation with with any data wat? Americans give so much data to companies.
  - x5n1 11y ago
    To give and trust are two different things. Americans give everything, they don't trust it at all.
  - progressive_dad 11y ago
    I believe the implication is, "Americans don't trust their own government or any corporation to abide by their publicly stated policies on how and when data is collected and used."
M2Ys4U 11y ago
The US is treating this as a political negotiation rather than a legal impasse. The European Commission doesn't want to be seen as being obstructionist when it comes to trade. There is zero chance this would stand up if it was taken to the European Court of Justice, they'd laugh it out of the room just like they did with Safe Harbor.

x5n1 11y ago

American companies don't do that for US citizens, or pretend to comply but don't do so really. Seriously, Americans don't trust their own government or any corporation with with any data. And they have very good reasons to do so, because those corporations and the US government will use that data for anything whatsoever that they feel is protecting whatever laws they have come up with and instituted. Whether that's for actual criminal activities, protecting intellectual property, or even protecting American corporate or economic interests. American corporations will use that data to sell people more stuff and build as detailed of a profile on them as possible. How a third party does so is beyond insanity to me. It's not reasonable at all. Period.

mineshaftgap 11y ago
Because it is all fake. EU govs give the US what they want and all this is for show. EU has outsourced defense and intelligence, they just have to keep that fact from the populous.
serge2k 11y ago
> Americans don't trust their own government or any corporation with with any data wat? Americans give so much data to companies.
- x5n1 11y ago
  To give and trust are two different things. Americans give everything, they don't trust it at all.
- progressive_dad 11y ago
  I believe the implication is, "Americans don't trust their own government or any corporation to abide by their publicly stated policies on how and when data is collected and used."

M2Ys4U 11y ago

The US is treating this as a political negotiation rather than a legal impasse. The European Commission doesn't want to be seen as being obstructionist when it comes to trade. There is zero chance this would stand up if it was taken to the European Court of Justice, they'd laugh it out of the room just like they did with Safe Harbor.