4 ms·

But then why call it AI? Perhaps the work that it does is not actually intelligent?

by frozenport 11y ago

splatcollision 11y ago
Exactly. AI is such a loaded term with high expectations...
ktRolster 11y ago
More people need to be aware of the distinction between "strong AI" and "weak AI." Right now, all we have is weak AI.
empath75 11y ago
Is what people do 'actually intelligent'? If you break down the processes of the brain to a low enough level, all of the 'intelligence' will disappear, just as it does in a computer neural network. Intelligence is not some kind of aristotelian substance that permeates brain matter. At some level, anything which is intelligent has to be built from parts which are not intelligent.
- eanzenberg 11y ago
  That's right, yet "I think therefore I am." I can prove that I exist and have conscious thought beyond your observation that the my actions are low-level survival instincts. I would define intelligence as knowing "I think therefore I am." Unfortunately, it's impossible (as far as I know) to prove for anyone outside myself :)
- colllectorof 11y ago
  > Is what people do 'actually intelligent'? Yes, although there are plenty of people trying to convince everyone otherwise by example. > If you break down the processes of the brain to a low enough level, all of the 'intelligence' will disappear, just as it does in a computer neural network. If you break matter down to low enough level, everything is just elementary particles. Now, would you please trade me some gold for equal mass of aluminum?
- eli_gottlieb 11y ago
  >If you break down the processes of the brain to a low enough level, all of the 'intelligence' will disappear, just as it does in a computer neural network. Well no. Free-energy minimizing, multi-information maximizing generative causal modeling is what appears when you break down the processes of the brain (at least as we best understand them right now).

But then why call it AI? Perhaps the work that it does is not actually intelligent?

splatcollision 11y ago

Exactly. AI is such a loaded term with high expectations...

ktRolster 11y ago

More people need to be aware of the distinction between "strong AI" and "weak AI." Right now, all we have is weak AI.

empath75 11y ago

Is what people do 'actually intelligent'? If you break down the processes of the brain to a low enough level, all of the 'intelligence' will disappear, just as it does in a computer neural network. Intelligence is not some kind of aristotelian substance that permeates brain matter. At some level, anything which is intelligent has to be built from parts which are not intelligent.

eanzenberg 11y ago
That's right, yet "I think therefore I am." I can prove that I exist and have conscious thought beyond your observation that the my actions are low-level survival instincts. I would define intelligence as knowing "I think therefore I am." Unfortunately, it's impossible (as far as I know) to prove for anyone outside myself :)
colllectorof 11y ago
> Is what people do 'actually intelligent'? Yes, although there are plenty of people trying to convince everyone otherwise by example. > If you break down the processes of the brain to a low enough level, all of the 'intelligence' will disappear, just as it does in a computer neural network. If you break matter down to low enough level, everything is just elementary particles. Now, would you please trade me some gold for equal mass of aluminum?
eli_gottlieb 11y ago
>If you break down the processes of the brain to a low enough level, all of the 'intelligence' will disappear, just as it does in a computer neural network. Well no. Free-energy minimizing, multi-information maximizing generative causal modeling is what appears when you break down the processes of the brain (at least as we best understand them right now).