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When you click the refund link in the footer, you are presented with a page not found error: https://ramgrid.com/legal/refunds https://ramgrid.com/legal/refunds

When you click the refund link in the footer, you are presented with a page not found error: https://ramgrid.com/legal/refunds https://ramgrid.com/legal/refunds Is this supposed to be scam or a joke?

smt88 11y ago
Edit: I take it back. It seems to be serious and not just a test. I found the creator's LinkedIn.[1] Previous comment: Probably a landing page to test a concept before the concept is developed. It's done frequently, but this person has done it rather sloppily. 1. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasondecastro https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasondecastro
- USNetizen 11y ago
  From a self-written description of his previous project: "I know what you're thinking. FkPaying is a brand new way to watch movies, download books, and download music. I built out a really nice website that's very intuitive and user friendly. Yeah... if you're reading this, the website might have been taken down by the FBI. It was a good run, folks. I hope I don't get taken to jail for this." Yeah, seems proud of being taken down by the FBI. I'm not really comfortable with people that take such pride in pushing the limits of the law and it doesn't bode well for the reputation of this current venture.
  - RIMR 11y ago
    Wow, really? I might need to report my card "lost" so that I can get a new number. Stripe protects that information from the vendor, right? Though I doubt this kid is going to try to be that brazen, especially since he is using his real name to do this (assuming this isn't a fake identity). Might request a new number just in case. I really don't trust this asshole anymore.
    - smt88 11y ago
      I wouldn't be too hasty to call him an asshole. Based on his LinkedIn, I think he's just a kid without any work experience and, consequently, without much understanding of professionalism. "FuckPaying" seem to be not that different from one of us wanting to start some kind of Napster when we were young, and I think a lot of grown HN users are probably PopcornTime users...
      - USNetizen 11y ago
        He's an "assistant instructor" at at least one school/program, and others. This isn't a "kid" if he's teaching other people. We can't and shouldn't blame potential fraud on simple "youth" for someone who is obviously of an age that he is teaching other people to do these things.
RIMR 11y ago
There's a service behind this, I can confirm it. I just wasted $9 on a broken VPS. I am not worried about that $9 because I spent that expecting this to be a bust. I've spent far more on stupider things. It'll certainly be the last $9 I spend on this though.
- ogsharkman 11y ago
  Not surprising. I'd be more concerned with handing over card details tbh.
  - RIMR 11y ago
    Payments were handled with Stripe, so it's my understanding that RamGrid won't have the card details.
    - ogsharkman 11y ago
      Well that's good!
mcintyre1994 11y ago
Also both pages under "For those who may sue us". Actually, just all of that section - you need a ramgrid account to view their refund policy (apparently different to the 404 footer one), or "FOR THE FEDS & CO" law enforcement guide/copyright policy. Also the search bar doesn't work.

When you click the refund link in the footer, you are presented with a page not found error: https://ramgrid.com/legal/refunds https://ramgrid.com/legal/refunds Is this supposed to be scam or a joke?

smt88 11y ago

Edit: I take it back. It seems to be serious and not just a test. I found the creator's LinkedIn.[1] Previous comment: Probably a landing page to test a concept before the concept is developed. It's done frequently, but this person has done it rather sloppily. 1. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasondecastro https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasondecastro

USNetizen 11y ago
From a self-written description of his previous project: "I know what you're thinking. FkPaying is a brand new way to watch movies, download books, and download music. I built out a really nice website that's very intuitive and user friendly. Yeah... if you're reading this, the website might have been taken down by the FBI. It was a good run, folks. I hope I don't get taken to jail for this." Yeah, seems proud of being taken down by the FBI. I'm not really comfortable with people that take such pride in pushing the limits of the law and it doesn't bode well for the reputation of this current venture.
- RIMR 11y ago
  Wow, really? I might need to report my card "lost" so that I can get a new number. Stripe protects that information from the vendor, right? Though I doubt this kid is going to try to be that brazen, especially since he is using his real name to do this (assuming this isn't a fake identity). Might request a new number just in case. I really don't trust this asshole anymore.
  - smt88 11y ago
    I wouldn't be too hasty to call him an asshole. Based on his LinkedIn, I think he's just a kid without any work experience and, consequently, without much understanding of professionalism. "FuckPaying" seem to be not that different from one of us wanting to start some kind of Napster when we were young, and I think a lot of grown HN users are probably PopcornTime users...
    - USNetizen 11y ago
      He's an "assistant instructor" at at least one school/program, and others. This isn't a "kid" if he's teaching other people. We can't and shouldn't blame potential fraud on simple "youth" for someone who is obviously of an age that he is teaching other people to do these things.

RIMR 11y ago

There's a service behind this, I can confirm it. I just wasted $9 on a broken VPS. I am not worried about that $9 because I spent that expecting this to be a bust. I've spent far more on stupider things. It'll certainly be the last $9 I spend on this though.

ogsharkman 11y ago
Not surprising. I'd be more concerned with handing over card details tbh.
- RIMR 11y ago
  Payments were handled with Stripe, so it's my understanding that RamGrid won't have the card details.
  - ogsharkman 11y ago
    Well that's good!

mcintyre1994 11y ago

Also both pages under "For those who may sue us". Actually, just all of that section - you need a ramgrid account to view their refund policy (apparently different to the 404 footer one), or "FOR THE FEDS & CO" law enforcement guide/copyright policy. Also the search bar doesn't work.