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Germany is very bad either. You have to take the decision if you want to go to university at the age of 10. In classes the children are discuraged to go that pa
by ccozan 11y ago
Germany is very bad either. You have to take the decision if you want to go to university at the age of 10. In classes the children are discuraged to go that path, because "is very hard, and no time to play". Obviously, a lie, but very effective. It seems, children with academical parents will likely pursue that academical path, due to pressure but also the benefits. The others are required to support the professions for industry. This doesn't mean you don't make a ton of money, you can with the right entrepreneureal skills.
Tuition is actually not homogene, some german lands have it some not. But in the last years, they have been gradually reduced or removed ( in Bavaria for example).
- rbehrends 11y agoBoth Germany and Austria have higher intergenerational mobility than the UK (though that probably has very little to do with tuition). > You have to take the decision if you want to go to university at the age of 10. While I'm not a fan of Germany's tracking system, this really isn't true anymore. Leaving aside the fact that at least one state (Schleswig-Holstein) has pretty much killed tracking, your choice after fourth grade no longer locks you into one track. It's still pretty wasteful, but there's a lot of flexibility now (example: my niece is about to do her abitur after having already done an apprenticeship, and this was fully financed by the German government).
- ccozan 11y agoOk, this is quite good news then. But Bayern might be quite slow in implementing such changes. Regarding tuition, i've seen the tracking system more restrictive than having a tuition. You can always borrow money to pay a tuition, but if you choose wrongly ( or have really low scholar performance in the first 4 years of school), it is(was) pretty hard to access to the university.