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I just want to note that there's strong social pressure to not to claim that you don't love working as a programmer on this site. The odds a future boss or cow

by cgag 11y ago

I just want to note that there's strong social pressure to not to claim that you don't love working as a programmer on this site. The odds a future boss or coworker is an HN regular is extremely high, and "passion" is high valued. Weigh the responses accordingly.

abalashov 11y ago
Well, as you can see from my comment, I, at least, am quite immune to this pressure. :-) It's funny to feel like an old-timer at 30, but I've been doing it for 21 years. Everything old really is new to me again. There's nothing less exciting to me than the latest 100-line .js dependency to include or yet another API reference to glaze over.
- ry_ry 11y ago
  You have been a professional developer since you were 9?
  - abalashov 11y ago
    Not a professional one, of course. :-) However, I think it's fair to say I've been programming since that age because of the sheer amount of it that I did before I was 18, as it relates to the theme of burnout. I wrote fairly complex systems all throughout middle and high school. As I recall, I wrote my first multiuser server when I was 10 or 11.
Udo 11y ago
If you're scared of putting your actual opinions on here, why do it in the first place? Why even have an account? I'm sure if you searched through most people's comment history here, including mine, any given future boss could find something they take offense with, if they only looked hard enough. I also find your implication that everybody here is (or should be) lying about their experiences reprehensible. Disagreement is natural, and so is having different life styles. There are lots of people on here who view programming just as a means to a (business) end, or who only learned it in college and see it as a job skill, as opposed to a creative outlet. These people don't generally have problems getting hired, and I can see how some jobs and bosses would even prefer them. I'm in the "programming as a passion" camp, and I can see lots of reasons why bosses would prefer not to hire some opinionated old neckbeard who thinks he's a creative snowflake.
- cgag 11y ago
  I'm not implying anyone's lying, I'm just saying there's selection bias. I doubt anyone's lying, I bet a lot of people just don't reply.

by cgag 11y ago

abalashov 11y ago

Well, as you can see from my comment, I, at least, am quite immune to this pressure. :-) It's funny to feel like an old-timer at 30, but I've been doing it for 21 years. Everything old really is new to me again. There's nothing less exciting to me than the latest 100-line .js dependency to include or yet another API reference to glaze over.

ry_ry 11y ago
You have been a professional developer since you were 9?
- abalashov 11y ago
  Not a professional one, of course. :-) However, I think it's fair to say I've been programming since that age because of the sheer amount of it that I did before I was 18, as it relates to the theme of burnout. I wrote fairly complex systems all throughout middle and high school. As I recall, I wrote my first multiuser server when I was 10 or 11.

Udo 11y ago

If you're scared of putting your actual opinions on here, why do it in the first place? Why even have an account? I'm sure if you searched through most people's comment history here, including mine, any given future boss could find something they take offense with, if they only looked hard enough. I also find your implication that everybody here is (or should be) lying about their experiences reprehensible. Disagreement is natural, and so is having different life styles. There are lots of people on here who view programming just as a means to a (business) end, or who only learned it in college and see it as a job skill, as opposed to a creative outlet. These people don't generally have problems getting hired, and I can see how some jobs and bosses would even prefer them. I'm in the "programming as a passion" camp, and I can see lots of reasons why bosses would prefer not to hire some opinionated old neckbeard who thinks he's a creative snowflake.

cgag 11y ago
I'm not implying anyone's lying, I'm just saying there's selection bias. I doubt anyone's lying, I bet a lot of people just don't reply.