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"Porn industry in the 1990s invented : chatrooms, e-commerce with visa card, dynamic contents...." Can someone knowledgable of the history of the web confirm t

by sloreti 11y ago

"Porn industry in the 1990s invented : chatrooms, e-commerce with visa card, dynamic contents...." Can someone knowledgable of the history of the web confirm this? I assumed the industry played a major role in the development of some web technologies, but can the rise of e-commerce, for example, be mainly attributed to porn?

mixmastamyk 11y ago
They were an early pioneer, yes, inventor is probably too strong a word. Chatrooms were around much earlier. Perhaps he means on a website?
- SFjulie1 11y ago
  on a web site indeed. I saw the first "private chatrooms" in 1998 based on ugly PHP/js hacks. And it was the pornmaster who showed to me how to do them.
bsder 11y ago
The porn industry was way ahead of just about every technology for a long time. This goes back to CES and the Adult Entertainment Expo being in Vegas at the same time. For a long time, you got as good (or better) tech discussions over drinks with the porn techies than CES. This goes back to Betmax vs VHS. Laserdisc and DVD. Digital cameras. etc. The porn industry was always an early adopter. > can the rise of e-commerce, for example, be mainly attributed to porn? That's a different statement that I would answer "no" to. The rise of e-commerce was basically the credit card industry getting a piece of plastic into every single person's hand. You can't run e-commerce with cash.
decasteve 11y ago
Personal anecdote: I learned a lot of javascript tricks in the 1990s by using 'view source' on porn sites.
dalke 11y ago
Chatrooms as a concept are much older than the 1990s. I used chat rooms on the university's CDC mainframe in the late 1980s, with a system called 'confer.' People would sometimes create private rooms for online sex talk. Minitel supported chat rooms, including for adult chats ('messageries roses') in the 1980s. CompuServe an innumerable BBSes also had chat rooms in the 1980s. And the PLATO educational system had chat rooms in the 1970s. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talkomatic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talkomatic . However, you limited this to chatrooms implemented with 'web technologies' - I can't address that specific topic.

by sloreti 11y ago

mixmastamyk 11y ago

They were an early pioneer, yes, inventor is probably too strong a word. Chatrooms were around much earlier. Perhaps he means on a website?

SFjulie1 11y ago
on a web site indeed. I saw the first "private chatrooms" in 1998 based on ugly PHP/js hacks. And it was the pornmaster who showed to me how to do them.

bsder 11y ago

The porn industry was way ahead of just about every technology for a long time. This goes back to CES and the Adult Entertainment Expo being in Vegas at the same time. For a long time, you got as good (or better) tech discussions over drinks with the porn techies than CES. This goes back to Betmax vs VHS. Laserdisc and DVD. Digital cameras. etc. The porn industry was always an early adopter. > can the rise of e-commerce, for example, be mainly attributed to porn? That's a different statement that I would answer "no" to. The rise of e-commerce was basically the credit card industry getting a piece of plastic into every single person's hand. You can't run e-commerce with cash.

decasteve 11y ago

Personal anecdote: I learned a lot of javascript tricks in the 1990s by using 'view source' on porn sites.

dalke 11y ago

Chatrooms as a concept are much older than the 1990s. I used chat rooms on the university's CDC mainframe in the late 1980s, with a system called 'confer.' People would sometimes create private rooms for online sex talk. Minitel supported chat rooms, including for adult chats ('messageries roses') in the 1980s. CompuServe an innumerable BBSes also had chat rooms in the 1980s. And the PLATO educational system had chat rooms in the 1970s. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talkomatic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talkomatic . However, you limited this to chatrooms implemented with 'web technologies' - I can't address that specific topic.