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I hate this weird condescending attitude about New York City. "NYC's a loud filthy crime trap. Everyone knows it. How dare people try to improve things." Gener

by chasing 11y ago

I hate this weird condescending attitude about New York City. "NYC's a loud filthy crime trap. Everyone knows it. How dare people try to improve things." Generally speaking NYC is loud because of things people do. If we can reduce the amount of noisy shit happening in the city, then yes, it'll be quieter and a better place to live. People in large cities are allowed to demand a decent quality-of-life.

cylinder 11y ago
And there are still some very quiet areas in Manhattan. Financial District is one of them at night.
- chasing 11y ago
  And to extend your point: NYC != Midtown Manhattan Generally when people bitch about NYC in some kind of stereotypical way, they're complaining about Midtown. The majority of New Yorkers neither live in, work in, nor spend much time in Midtown Manhattan.
  - gclaramunt 11y ago
    Nor they live in the Hudson waterfront,where the article locates the source of noise pollution. Since most of them live in the other boroughs, I'm pretty sure there are things with more impact to increase the quality of living...
    - chasing 11y ago
      I think if you follow the thread you'll see that I was responding to ilyanep's derisive comment about NYC as a whole being somehow unworthy of improvement. Yes, the article refers to something that affects a relatively small number of New Yorkers.
      - gclaramunt 11y ago
        yeah, I expanding on what you said, not arguing against it :)
ilyanep 11y ago
I've stayed in Downtown Manhattan several times and I haven't heard helicopter noise, but I have heard sirens and honking horns throughout the night. It didn't bother me much; I have a reasonably high noise tolerance and I pretty much expect that out of being inside a dense city. This is why the shrill tone of "the tourists are ruining our city" in the article falls flat to me. It sounds like you live in NYC. Do the helicopters tend to bother you?
- chasing 11y ago
  I live in NYC, but not in Manhattan. Yes, helicopters fairly regularly fly over where I live. They can be very loud.

by chasing 11y ago

cylinder 11y ago

And there are still some very quiet areas in Manhattan. Financial District is one of them at night.

chasing 11y ago
And to extend your point: NYC != Midtown Manhattan Generally when people bitch about NYC in some kind of stereotypical way, they're complaining about Midtown. The majority of New Yorkers neither live in, work in, nor spend much time in Midtown Manhattan.
- gclaramunt 11y ago
  Nor they live in the Hudson waterfront,where the article locates the source of noise pollution. Since most of them live in the other boroughs, I'm pretty sure there are things with more impact to increase the quality of living...
  - chasing 11y ago
    I think if you follow the thread you'll see that I was responding to ilyanep's derisive comment about NYC as a whole being somehow unworthy of improvement. Yes, the article refers to something that affects a relatively small number of New Yorkers.
    - gclaramunt 11y ago
      yeah, I expanding on what you said, not arguing against it :)

ilyanep 11y ago

I've stayed in Downtown Manhattan several times and I haven't heard helicopter noise, but I have heard sirens and honking horns throughout the night. It didn't bother me much; I have a reasonably high noise tolerance and I pretty much expect that out of being inside a dense city. This is why the shrill tone of "the tourists are ruining our city" in the article falls flat to me. It sounds like you live in NYC. Do the helicopters tend to bother you?

chasing 11y ago
I live in NYC, but not in Manhattan. Yes, helicopters fairly regularly fly over where I live. They can be very loud.