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I have to say I'm a little bit low on sympathy. Since when has anyone moved to New York City for the quiet?
by ilyanep 11y ago
I have to say I'm a little bit low on sympathy. Since when has anyone moved to New York City for the quiet?
- mikeash 11y agoYeah, I'm surprised you can hear them over the general din of the city.
- Symbiote 11y agoPersistent aircraft noise is horrible. I don't have experience of NYC, but the flight path to London Heathrow descends over a swath of west London, and I imagine persistent helicopter noise to be worse. When I worked in London, my office was very close to the flightpath for LHR. Aircraft were at 580m overhead (according to FlightRadar24.com) about every 90 seconds all day. If the noise stopped (wind in the "wrong" direction) it felt like a huge stress just disappearing. Pretty much the same effect as an unexpected sunny day in winter :-) https://www.flightradar24.com/51.5,-0.31/12 https://www.flightradar24.com/51.5,-0.31/12 (note that LHR's night flight restrictions are from 23:30-06:00 UTC, but replaying from earlier in the day doesn't work for me: https://www.flightradar24.com/2016-01-31/09:00/12x/51.5,-0.31/12 https://www.flightradar24.com/2016-01-31/09:00/12x/51.5,-0.3... )
- zimpenfish 11y agoRecording ambient sound in Greenwich Park (sometimes binaurally) has made me appreciate just how much air traffic noise there is.
- ant6n 11y agoSo people who live in cities have no right to have some quality of life; they deserve the noise pollution on top of the air pollution.
- ilyanep 11y agoI responded to a similar comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11015522 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11015522 Is tourist helicopters really the biggest source of noise problems for you in the city? Why not instead focus on reducing the number of honking cars that drive by you?
- ant6n 11y agoThis seems to be a completely different line of argument than the parent.
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- chasing 11y agoI hate this weird condescending attitude about New York City. "NYC's a loud filthy crime trap. Everyone knows it. How dare people try to improve things." Generally speaking NYC is loud because of things people do. If we can reduce the amount of noisy shit happening in the city, then yes, it'll be quieter and a better place to live. People in large cities are allowed to demand a decent quality-of-life.
- cylinder 11y agoAnd there are still some very quiet areas in Manhattan. Financial District is one of them at night.
- chasing 11y agoAnd to extend your point: NYC != Midtown Manhattan Generally when people bitch about NYC in some kind of stereotypical way, they're complaining about Midtown. The majority of New Yorkers neither live in, work in, nor spend much time in Midtown Manhattan.
- gclaramunt 11y agoNor they live in the Hudson waterfront,where the article locates the source of noise pollution. Since most of them live in the other boroughs, I'm pretty sure there are things with more impact to increase the quality of living...
- chasing 11y agoI think if you follow the thread you'll see that I was responding to ilyanep's derisive comment about NYC as a whole being somehow unworthy of improvement. Yes, the article refers to something that affects a relatively small number of New Yorkers.
- gclaramunt 11y agoyeah, I expanding on what you said, not arguing against it :)