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I'm curious as to how many of the people that actually use IRC want any of these features? Almost everyone I see is using irssi/weechat.

by ryanlol 11y ago

untog 11y ago
Well, I think the argument is to increase the number of people who do use IRC - I'd say that Slack has proved people want features like that. If existing IRC users don't want to use the features, they don't have to.
- ryanlol 11y ago
  But seems like this would be fundamentally incompatible with the normal IRC clients that most people currently use. jwheare2 keeps talking about the existing irc ecosystem and communities, but I really doubt any of the big ones would be switching over.
  - jwheare2 11y ago
    freenode and most of the runner up biggest networks are on board with IRCv3. Also, the specs are backwards compatible by design.
    - ryanlol 11y ago
      >Also, the specs are backwards compatible by design. The spec may be, but I doubt any of the examples you gave would ever be compatible with irssi & co.
      - anonbanker 11y ago
        why wouldn't they be? svgalib and directfb allow irssi to display avatars in full color. You could use libcaca to reduce them down to ascii, if needed. Either way, the point of an extension is that it degrades gracefully if the extension is not supported. Users that can see avatars get to see avatars. the ones that don't care don't lose the rest of the experience.
        ryanlol 11y ago
        >why wouldn't they be? svgalib and directfb allow irssi to display avatars in full color. You could use libcaca to reduce them down to ascii, if needed. Yes for both of the people running irssi in a framebuffer console, libcaca would obviously need ridiculously large avatars. >Either way, the point of an extension is that it degrades gracefully if the extension is not supported. Users that can see avatars get to see avatars. the ones that don't care don't lose the rest of the experience. Yeah, but the ones that do don't see any avatars either, because they're the only ones that support it.

I'm curious as to how many of the people that actually use IRC want any of these features? Almost everyone I see is using irssi/weechat.

by ryanlol 11y ago

I'm curious as to how many of the people that actually use IRC want any of these features? Almost everyone I see is using irssi/weechat.

untog 11y ago

Well, I think the argument is to increase the number of people who do use IRC - I'd say that Slack has proved people want features like that. If existing IRC users don't want to use the features, they don't have to.

ryanlol 11y ago
But seems like this would be fundamentally incompatible with the normal IRC clients that most people currently use. jwheare2 keeps talking about the existing irc ecosystem and communities, but I really doubt any of the big ones would be switching over.
- jwheare2 11y ago
  freenode and most of the runner up biggest networks are on board with IRCv3. Also, the specs are backwards compatible by design.
  - ryanlol 11y ago
    >Also, the specs are backwards compatible by design. The spec may be, but I doubt any of the examples you gave would ever be compatible with irssi & co.
    - anonbanker 11y ago
      why wouldn't they be? svgalib and directfb allow irssi to display avatars in full color. You could use libcaca to reduce them down to ascii, if needed. Either way, the point of an extension is that it degrades gracefully if the extension is not supported. Users that can see avatars get to see avatars. the ones that don't care don't lose the rest of the experience.
      - ryanlol 11y ago
        >why wouldn't they be? svgalib and directfb allow irssi to display avatars in full color. You could use libcaca to reduce them down to ascii, if needed. Yes for both of the people running irssi in a framebuffer console, libcaca would obviously need ridiculously large avatars. >Either way, the point of an extension is that it degrades gracefully if the extension is not supported. Users that can see avatars get to see avatars. the ones that don't care don't lose the rest of the experience. Yeah, but the ones that do don't see any avatars either, because they're the only ones that support it.