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The Turbo-Encabulator in Industry (1944)

57 points by PascLeRasc 11y ago

gecko 11y ago
Quite awhile ago, not too long after Kickstarter became a thing, I really wanted to do a modern, professional, warm, heartfelt video proposing a cloud-connected turboencabulator. I was going to post it to Kickstarter to see if I could raise money; if I did, I thought it'd show how little most people understood about how Kickstarter worked. Then that fellow raised a half million dollars to make a sandwich, and I kind of felt like my point had been made for me already.
- visakanv 11y ago
  > if I did, I thought it'd show how little most people understood about how Kickstarter worked. Hm. What do most people misunderstand about Kickstarter?
zyxley 11y ago
If you're talking about encabulators, it's hard to go wrong with the Rockwell retro-encabulator line. I know newer retro-proto-turbo-encabulators have flashier features, but newer isn't always better when you're dealing with grammeter interfaces.
- Aloha 11y ago
  I need an app enabled one though, programming it thru the existing PLC interface or worse, manual adjustments is so time consuming.
  - fnordfnordfnord 11y ago
    Talk to your Rockwell rep. If a worse way exists, they'll find it for you.
    - Aloha 11y ago
      We just upgraded from the installing a config from paper-tape system, at least now I can use a serial port.
- jksmith 11y ago
  I always loved the sound of the doors on the metal cabinet squeaking when opened. Also, that thing that spun around real fast when switched on was extra cool.
- fnordfnordfnord 11y ago
  Like everything else from AB/Rockwell, you can find a better one if you look, buy you can't pay more for one.
HCIdivision17 11y ago
Rockwell Automation did some work to modernize this with the ironically named retro-encabulator [0]. It follows the same principles, but uses the off-the-shelf parts we've come to appreciate from RA affiliates. GE was the main supplier of this updated version [1], and reviews show that its performance was excellent in the field. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w [1] http://www.rfcafe.com/miscellany/humor/ge-turbo-encabulator.pdf http://www.rfcafe.com/miscellany/humor/ge-turbo-encabulator.... EDIT: There's quite a lot of controversy convering this area of reseach in the following decades. A more technical overview [2] on the turbo-encabulator's operations is discussed in an article covering Chrysler's tulmultuous efforts to apply it to their automotive line. The short of it is that despite being an impressive leap forward in technology, if mass produced it would generate dangerous quantities of DHMO [3]. It just goes to show how a small unexpected side effect can derail even well researched technical solutions. [2] http://www.curbsideclassic.com/automotive-histories/automotive-history-chryslers-failed-turboencabulator-hybrid-program-patriot-games/ http://www.curbsideclassic.com/automotive-histories/automoti... [3] http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
- frogpelt 11y ago
  Sidenote: That narrator got a job at Lowe's. And it makes it hard for me to take him seriously. http://www.lowes.com/projects/other-areas/pressure-wash-your-home-exterior/project http://www.lowes.com/projects/other-areas/pressure-wash-your...
  - HCIdivision17 11y ago
    I think it's clear that his career as spokesman for the retro-encabulator was limited. Rockwell really dropped the ball on that project, and we can see many on the team fell a bit further than hoped.
ctstover 11y ago
My startup is a leader in cloud based turbo-encabulation.
zemo 11y ago
etsy has done some work in this area, too. https://vimeo.com/63087035 https://vimeo.com/63087035
dammitcoetzee 11y ago
I can't wait till we can 3d print materials with compatible electro-grammetric properties to allumite. With brass fill, carbon fill, and magneto polymer fill petg and abs, we're getting closer to full ionic encapsulation which will let us make an equivalent device. Though, our rotational flex won't be as balanced. For now, however, differential girdle springs will still have to be purchased off the shelf.
1812Overture 11y ago
Can someone smarter than me explain how they're getting the dingle arm to reduce sinusoidal depleneration without it increasing the magneto-reluctance of the rotor-slip stream?
- dalke 11y ago
  They use a flux capacitor.
- Aloha 11y ago
  We just went thru this upgrade process at work - it has something to do with live sockets and the sinusoidal flux of the reverse osmogrfier, and modulating the skor motion accordingly - Rockwell had sent out a great white paper on this, perhaps you should request it from your rep.
pekk 11y ago
I would like to see category theory applied in this area, for a more rigorous model of turbo-encabulation in the abstract (independent of hardware limitations).
meatsock 11y ago
encabulation is a great topic of study with many interesting video demos turbo encabulator v1 https://youtu.be/Ac7G7xOG2Ag https://youtu.be/Ac7G7xOG2Ag rockwell turbo encabulator https://youtu.be/2fjcJp_Nwvk https://youtu.be/2fjcJp_Nwvk rockwell retro encabulator https://youtu.be/pbsmHnsjJZk https://youtu.be/pbsmHnsjJZk chrysler turbo encabulator https://youtu.be/UyRllRWfLJE https://youtu.be/UyRllRWfLJE chrysler turbo encabulator diagnosis and service https://youtu.be/pbsmHnsjJZk https://youtu.be/pbsmHnsjJZk fort worth vintage flying museum specific service notes https://youtu.be/bOV0v1Uq5CY https://youtu.be/bOV0v1Uq5CY
- jonah 11y ago
  I think Bud Haggert's narration in the v1 "original" is still the best. Be sure to read the video description on it too.
  - meatsock 11y ago
    good advice, fascinatingly it turns out the whole thing was part of the development of the IFB, the earpiece in common use on every tv news show: The turboencabulator skit was originally intended to demonstrate the usefulness of earpiece radios as a replacement for cue cards when actors are delivering lines for a video. Bud Haggart wanted to show that you could use the earpiece effectively even when the lines get ridiculously difficult to follow, so he used the turboencabulator as a subject because it'd been a running gag in the engineering community ever since its first technical description was published by John Hellins Quick in 1944.
  - blt 11y ago
    I wish he didn't mess up "soinusoidal" though...
theoh 11y ago
Some folks really get into optimizing their encabulators: https://www.reddit.com/r/VXJunkies/ https://www.reddit.com/r/VXJunkies/

57 points by PascLeRasc 11y ago

gecko 11y ago

Quite awhile ago, not too long after Kickstarter became a thing, I really wanted to do a modern, professional, warm, heartfelt video proposing a cloud-connected turboencabulator. I was going to post it to Kickstarter to see if I could raise money; if I did, I thought it'd show how little most people understood about how Kickstarter worked. Then that fellow raised a half million dollars to make a sandwich, and I kind of felt like my point had been made for me already.

visakanv 11y ago
> if I did, I thought it'd show how little most people understood about how Kickstarter worked. Hm. What do most people misunderstand about Kickstarter?

zyxley 11y ago

If you're talking about encabulators, it's hard to go wrong with the Rockwell retro-encabulator line. I know newer retro-proto-turbo-encabulators have flashier features, but newer isn't always better when you're dealing with grammeter interfaces.

Aloha 11y ago
I need an app enabled one though, programming it thru the existing PLC interface or worse, manual adjustments is so time consuming.
- fnordfnordfnord 11y ago
  Talk to your Rockwell rep. If a worse way exists, they'll find it for you.
  - Aloha 11y ago
    We just upgraded from the installing a config from paper-tape system, at least now I can use a serial port.
jksmith 11y ago
I always loved the sound of the doors on the metal cabinet squeaking when opened. Also, that thing that spun around real fast when switched on was extra cool.
fnordfnordfnord 11y ago
Like everything else from AB/Rockwell, you can find a better one if you look, buy you can't pay more for one.

HCIdivision17 11y ago

Rockwell Automation did some work to modernize this with the ironically named retro-encabulator [0]. It follows the same principles, but uses the off-the-shelf parts we've come to appreciate from RA affiliates. GE was the main supplier of this updated version [1], and reviews show that its performance was excellent in the field. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w [1] http://www.rfcafe.com/miscellany/humor/ge-turbo-encabulator.pdf http://www.rfcafe.com/miscellany/humor/ge-turbo-encabulator.... EDIT: There's quite a lot of controversy convering this area of reseach in the following decades. A more technical overview [2] on the turbo-encabulator's operations is discussed in an article covering Chrysler's tulmultuous efforts to apply it to their automotive line. The short of it is that despite being an impressive leap forward in technology, if mass produced it would generate dangerous quantities of DHMO [3]. It just goes to show how a small unexpected side effect can derail even well researched technical solutions. [2] http://www.curbsideclassic.com/automotive-histories/automotive-history-chryslers-failed-turboencabulator-hybrid-program-patriot-games/ http://www.curbsideclassic.com/automotive-histories/automoti... [3] http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

frogpelt 11y ago
Sidenote: That narrator got a job at Lowe's. And it makes it hard for me to take him seriously. http://www.lowes.com/projects/other-areas/pressure-wash-your-home-exterior/project http://www.lowes.com/projects/other-areas/pressure-wash-your...
- HCIdivision17 11y ago
  I think it's clear that his career as spokesman for the retro-encabulator was limited. Rockwell really dropped the ball on that project, and we can see many on the team fell a bit further than hoped.

ctstover 11y ago

My startup is a leader in cloud based turbo-encabulation.

zemo 11y ago

etsy has done some work in this area, too. https://vimeo.com/63087035 https://vimeo.com/63087035

dammitcoetzee 11y ago

I can't wait till we can 3d print materials with compatible electro-grammetric properties to allumite. With brass fill, carbon fill, and magneto polymer fill petg and abs, we're getting closer to full ionic encapsulation which will let us make an equivalent device. Though, our rotational flex won't be as balanced. For now, however, differential girdle springs will still have to be purchased off the shelf.

1812Overture 11y ago

Can someone smarter than me explain how they're getting the dingle arm to reduce sinusoidal depleneration without it increasing the magneto-reluctance of the rotor-slip stream?

dalke 11y ago
They use a flux capacitor.
Aloha 11y ago
We just went thru this upgrade process at work - it has something to do with live sockets and the sinusoidal flux of the reverse osmogrfier, and modulating the skor motion accordingly - Rockwell had sent out a great white paper on this, perhaps you should request it from your rep.

pekk 11y ago

I would like to see category theory applied in this area, for a more rigorous model of turbo-encabulation in the abstract (independent of hardware limitations).

meatsock 11y ago

encabulation is a great topic of study with many interesting video demos turbo encabulator v1 https://youtu.be/Ac7G7xOG2Ag https://youtu.be/Ac7G7xOG2Ag rockwell turbo encabulator https://youtu.be/2fjcJp_Nwvk https://youtu.be/2fjcJp_Nwvk rockwell retro encabulator https://youtu.be/pbsmHnsjJZk https://youtu.be/pbsmHnsjJZk chrysler turbo encabulator https://youtu.be/UyRllRWfLJE https://youtu.be/UyRllRWfLJE chrysler turbo encabulator diagnosis and service https://youtu.be/pbsmHnsjJZk https://youtu.be/pbsmHnsjJZk fort worth vintage flying museum specific service notes https://youtu.be/bOV0v1Uq5CY https://youtu.be/bOV0v1Uq5CY

jonah 11y ago
I think Bud Haggert's narration in the v1 "original" is still the best. Be sure to read the video description on it too.
- meatsock 11y ago
  good advice, fascinatingly it turns out the whole thing was part of the development of the IFB, the earpiece in common use on every tv news show: The turboencabulator skit was originally intended to demonstrate the usefulness of earpiece radios as a replacement for cue cards when actors are delivering lines for a video. Bud Haggart wanted to show that you could use the earpiece effectively even when the lines get ridiculously difficult to follow, so he used the turboencabulator as a subject because it'd been a running gag in the engineering community ever since its first technical description was published by John Hellins Quick in 1944.
- blt 11y ago
  I wish he didn't mess up "soinusoidal" though...

theoh 11y ago

Some folks really get into optimizing their encabulators: https://www.reddit.com/r/VXJunkies/ https://www.reddit.com/r/VXJunkies/