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Show HN: Skadi – self-hosted Trello alternative with a 10 second installation
- VFisa 11y agoNice project. I would also recommend self-hosted Kanboard http://kanboard.net http://kanboard.net It has full API a reporting capabilities.
- medvednikov 11y agoHello, I'd like to get your opinion on this project. It's still in beta and under heavy development. Some of the basic features like voting and checklists are missing, but they will be implemented by the end of February. There are so many Kanban boards out there. Why create another? They key advantage of Skadi is easy installation on your own server. You can literally do it in 10 seconds. It's a binary file with zero dependencies. It uses a built in web server and a LevelDB database. Even the static files are embedded in the binary, which allows easier updates. So the primary audience is companies who would like to use Trello but can't store sensitive data on outside servers or simply prefer a self-hosted solution. It also does some things better than Trello. For example, it is extremely light and fast and can handle a lot more cards without freezing. Search is always instant, unlike in Trello. Of course, it supports JSON imports from Trello. Thanks for your time.
- ff_ 11y agoNice project, I was looking for something similar to Trello but self-hosted, but there wasn't anything interesting out there :) By the way, the entire "sensitive data" argument is not valid, since you're distributing a compiled binary. Do you really trust compiled binaries for sensitive data? I won't until I'll be able to review the source code.
- medvednikov 11y agoGood point. I think I will do it the Atlassian way: companies who care about protecting their data will get the sources, just like with JIRA. They'll have to "go run" them themselves, but it's nothing like setting up JIRA.
- sqrt17 11y agoWhy not a one-time fee? It's probably nicer for people to have a software without a built-in kill switch that will magically activate if they stop paying money
- medvednikov 11y agoGood point. A lot of companies would definitely prefer a one-time fee. The pricing policy is not final of course.
- rmsaksida 11y agoYou might want to add some information about yourself to the website, or alternatively share the source code somewhere. I was put off of trying it when I noticed it was an executable. There's too little info about the project to trust it.
- medvednikov 11y agoYes, this is actually worse than the notorious installation scripts run as root. At least Skadi doesn't require root access. I will definitely be adding more information and researching other ways of distributing executables safely.
- skaplun 11y agoWere phasing the org put of trello because search/history is a pain after adding a mass of issues to the system. Improve that and you'll have me as a customer
- medvednikov 11y agoThanks! Good performance and instant search are two very important features of Skadi. For the next couple of weeks I'll be working hard to fix the bugs and implement missing features (e.g. searching in descriptions and comments).
- skaplun 11y agoIt's not the speed, its the way results are returned. Problems start when you have to decide to implement something that was discussed a year ago and you want to understand why a decision was taken.
- Falkon1313 11y agoI'll second this. Would love faceted/filtered/advanced search (things like limit search by board, label, time range, include/exclude archived, etc.). Once you have a sizable team creating a lot of cards on a lot of boards over the course of multiple years, a simple text search returns too many results to find what you are looking for.
- SitoCH 11y agoHi, I'm a lavagna.io developer so I'm surely biased but the search / filter feature is deeply integrated and plays a key role once a team starts to handle a lots of cards, take a look if you like the idea.
- mattbee 11y agoFor what it's worth, we use the free / open source https://wekan.io/ https://wekan.io/ at Bytemark and it's really smooth, runs our whole-company to-do board with 28 people. As a hosting co we'd rather have self-hosted than SaaS, but we'll use (& pay for) free software over both of those options if at all possible.
- medvednikov 11y agoYes, wekan.io is great. Right now the only advantages Skadi offers are a much easier installation/administration and instant search. However the set of features will grow. I plan to implement functionality similar to Hackpad/Confluence, time management, and even source code management, so that companies have everything in one place for a very affordable price.
- lern_too_spel 11y agoWekan installs on Sandstorm, so not only is it cheaper and easier to install, but it is more secure as well.
- pmontra 11y agoMaybe you'll become the next Atlassian but self hosted closed source is both better and worse than hosted closed source. Better because we have the data and worse because we don't know what runs on our server. Data security is the same. It's not clear if the limit of 3 users apply to the self hosted server. Maybe you should clarify this point on your site.
- medvednikov 11y agoThanks, I'll make the pricing policy more clear. I agree with you, running closed source software does not give the company any guarantees. It looks like GitHub Enterprise is protected: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13185814/how-github-enterprise-protects-the-code-they-deliver-on-virtual-machines http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13185814/how-github-enter... How do they get away with this?
- Numberwang 11y agoWhat are your plans for the Windows release? How do you make secure backups with this?
- medvednikov 11y agoWindows support will be implemented next week. Backups are run automatically and saved in the "bkups" directory (next to the executable).
- medlazik 11y agoWhoever comes up with an on-prem Trello that supports LDAP and group management wins the on-prem Trello-like enterprise market. To my knowledge, only Redbooth does this. $30/user per month. Insanity.
- medvednikov 11y agoThanks for the feature request. I've added it to the TODO list. Definitely something I will do. The price will always remain $1/user per month.
- TheLogothete 11y agoJira has LDAP, no?
- medlazik 11y agoSorry I meant "Trello-like", its appeal to non techies.
- phillc73 11y agoKanboard[0] supports both LDAP authentication[1] and group management[2][3]. I've been using this in a professional context for the last four months or so. It's been pretty good. As well as a kanboard it supports a calendar view, task list view (similar to ToDoist) and a very basic Gantt view (no dependency tracking). [0] http://kanboard.net/ http://kanboard.net/ [1] http://kanboard.net/documentation/ldap-authentication http://kanboard.net/documentation/ldap-authentication [2] http://kanboard.net/documentation/groups http://kanboard.net/documentation/groups [3] http://kanboard.net/documentation/ldap-group-sync http://kanboard.net/documentation/ldap-group-sync
- syjer 11y agoour little project support ldap for the login part: http://lavagna.io/ http://lavagna.io/ .
- galaktor 11y agoNice. I'm currently seeking out a lean kanban-like board to self-host. It could be just me, but this seems to be closed-source and as such ranks a good way below libre alternatives like kanboard [1]. Interop with other systems is also a big deal for me, and the option to extend it myself if need be seems impossible with a closed system. Are there plans to release the source code, or is there a documented API somewhere? [1] http://kanboard.net/ http://kanboard.net/
- medvednikov 11y agoThere is an API, it's just not documented yet. It is very simple to use, similar to Slack's API. The source will be released to companies running Skadi on their own servers, just like JIRA.
- zlatan_todoric 11y agoMaybe you want to take a look at https://taiga.io/ https://taiga.io/
- patates 11y agoAnother recommendation for Taiga here. It's very flexible (though this can be good or bad depending on you knowing already what you're doing) and fast enough.
- d0m 11y agoThanks for having suggesting taiga.. I didn't know about it but it looks great. Seems like a great opinated tool for small-medium projects, I'll give it a try.
- eposner 11y agoNew 1.10 release out today with Git-Hub like search of public projects. With 100,000+ users and nearly as many projects activated the community at Taiga is growing quickly.
- 0xbadb002 11y agoNice project! So far some things that would improve it (for me personally): * show a shadow under the card when dragging that snaps to the list, this means I can accurately see where the card is dropped because sometimes it doesn't go where I want it. * making a list would be nicer if it didn't have to refresh the page * also there are some glitches with moving the cards where it indents them or overlaps them, it's hard to explain (I appreciate that this is beta though so you are probably aware of this) But that's my 2 pence, I'll definitely consider using this once it's more polished on my server :)
- davexunit 11y ago"Self-hosting" is moot when the software is proprietary. Check out Wekan instead, it's free software.
- ninjakeyboard 11y agoThe one liner is great to have. I love that homebrew does that. For a project that you host, to be able to install it super fast and just get on with it is a huge plus. However I chose not run this because it's a compiled binary and the source is nowhere to be seen. I choose not to trust a binary that I found on a forum from the internets. :) I'm much more likely to try something like Wekan and evaluate it seriously just because I know that me and my team can build whatever features we need and we can trust the code because we can read it. So does the business model work in the environment you're in? Eg giving the source to people who pay for it? Maybe it would be better to do something like eg nginx or cassandra or gitlab - have an OSS version and some premium version or at least some support contract with gold support or similar. It's a tough space to be fighting in with mature products and free products. How can you separate yourself from these other guys in a way that will still make you money? If it's just a self hosted trello alternative, that space may already be cloudy with Wekan. You need some differentiating quality to sit beside trello and wekan I think.
- medvednikov 11y agoThanks a lot for such a thorough comment! You are right, asking people to run the binary on their servers is not a good idea. I guess I have no other choice but to provide the source code to the clients, just like Atlassian does. I just did some research, and it looks like GitHub are protecting their source code: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13185814/how-github-enterprise-protects-the-code-they-deliver-on-virtual-machines http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13185814/how-github-enter... How do they get away with this?
- dmix 11y agoAn about page about who you are would be a good start. Additionally, what country your from would be of interest. Most importantly would be your incentives for doing this project. If it's money, how to you plan to monetize? Do you plan to sell your users data? etc. Trust is critical. Almost all of us Linux users run at least a few prepackaged binaries on our systems. But they come from trustworthy sources such as big companies like Github. These proprietary binaries are usually vetted by security researchers as well to detect any malicious behaviour. Additionally, I'd recommend posting SHA checksums and offering a more traditional "Download" button as an alternative to the one-liner. TLDR: You're asking people to take a risk on a new project, without any indiciation of who's behind it or why they should trust you.
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