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Due process in regard to which laws. I presumably would be a violation of Danish law, but under American law it isn't. It's more of an insult to Denmark than an
by rhino369 11y ago
Due process in regard to which laws. I presumably would be a violation of Danish law, but under American law it isn't. It's more of an insult to Denmark than anything else. Which is why it's not typically done.
But if the CIA just dragged him back to America and turned him over to the US Marshals it wouldn't impact his charges.
There is no recognized right to be a fugitive.
- ryanlol 11y agoWho was talking about American law?
- rhino369 11y agoWhy should the CIA care about Danish law?
- ryanlol 11y agoDiplomatic relations. US LEAs might have a hard time harassing people like me if EU countries stopped coöperating with them.
- rdl 11y agoGenerally actions done to your citizens abroad will cause less retribution than actions done to host nation citizens in host nation. Even better if there is any level of plausible (or even implausible) deniability. Russia pretty much got away with murdering Litvinenko in London; if they'd done that to a natural-born UK citizen in the UK with no other ties to Russia, and unambiguously, there would have been much more serious consequences.
- pjc50 11y agoRussia pretty much got away with murdering Litvinenko in London Well, up until now. It was so clearly a political decision to ignore it when it happened and now that relations with Russia have deteriorated it's been investigated and the obvious conclusion reached. The CIA could have someone with 'CIA' on their jacket shoot a UK citizen on the street in broad daylight and the UK would avoid investigating it if it was politically inconvenient to do so.
- jacquesm 11y agoChances are this already happened.
- sangnoir 11y agoWasn't a UK citizen illegally rendered, detained at Guantanamo and released after many years without being charged? I haven't heard of any enquiries/investigation s into that episode by the government across the pond.
- ryanlol 11y agoItaly indicted 26 CIA agents including multiple station chiefs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Omar_case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Omar_case Jeffrey W. Castelli, Rome station chief received a 7 year prison sentence Robert Seldon Lady, Milan station chief received a 8 year prison sentence
- sangnoir 11y ago>> I haven't heard of any enquiries/investigation s into that episode by the government across the pond. I'm referring to Her Majesty's government: Italy isn't the US's poodle the way the UK is, the thread was discussing the non-action of the UK government due to political inconvenience
- ryanlol 11y ago>I'm referring to Her Majesty's government: Italy isn't the US's poodle the way the UK is, the thread was discussing the non-action of the UK government due to political inconvenience I get that, but figured it would still be worth noting that other EU states have previously done this.
- ekianjo 11y agoThe american law is not applicable in non US territories.
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- jpdoherty 11y agoIt applies to US citizens who are wanted in the US for crimes.
- Joakal 11y agoAn Australian who never been to USA was extradited and subsequently jailed for breaking USA law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hew_Griffiths https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hew_Griffiths Afterwards, he was banned from USA.
- DyslexicAtheist 11y agoaren't they trying to extradite Kim Dotcom to the US because he broke US law?
- ekianjo 11y agoExtradition is based on treaties/agreements between countries, and they go both ways to make sure criminals cannot escape just by crossing borders. As for Kim Dotcom, his actions may fall under US jurisdiction as some of its customers and servers were in the USA, and whatever he was potentially infringing (copyright among others?) is protected and recognized by international treaties. For online businesses it's a lot more risky as your customers and operations may be located anywhere.