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Both Clinton and Trump have made it pretty clear via their attitude towards Snowden that he is in for death/torture somewhere within their presidency. I'd like
by ck2 11y ago
Both Clinton and Trump have made it pretty clear via their attitude towards Snowden that he is in for death/torture somewhere within their presidency.
I'd like to think Americans would protest but apparently most of the country has already forgotten or not cared anymore about the NSA, it's like it never happened, no-one even mentions it anymore in the mainstream.
- Spooky23 11y agoThat's a certainty. His value declines over time, and eventually the Russian's ask will hit the number that the US is willing to pay.
- r3bl 11y ago> it's like it never happened, no-one even mentions it anymore in the mainstream. IIRC, the whole idea of gradually releasing documents instead of dumping them all at once was to avoid this. Although, I haven't seen any new documents in quite a while. I wonder what happened. Are the rest of them not as important as the ones already released?
- toyg 11y ago> Are the rest of them not as important as the ones already released? Likely. There is also a question of framing overall discourse. For example, Der Spiegel and The Intercept recently posted some documents from that pile, showing how the US hacked Israeli feeds from jet fighters to monitor possible attacks against Iran. The original piece was extremely balanced, highlighting the conflicted relationship and conflict on policy choices and overall strategies. The Guardian picked it up with a piece that was very much pro-Israel, drumming up support for Israeli hawks (at a time when they are extremely isolated on the international stage). Whenever this sort of material enters the discourse, you have to be very careful if you want to avoid other people framing it in the "wrong" way. I don't blame Greenwald's people for taking their time.