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10x this. See http://contrastrebellion.com/ http://contrastrebellion.com/ When this is additionally compounded with a non-standard super thin font, the result

by jakub_g 11y ago

10x this. See http://contrastrebellion.com/ http://contrastrebellion.com/ When this is additionally compounded with a non-standard super thin font, the result is text almost invisible, even when zoomed, at least on non-retina non-macs. I also noticed some (very few, but not that rare) websites use a font that looks completely rubbish on my Windows machines (certain serifs not being displayed, making it impossible to decipher letters). I thought it was impossible that every Windows user had this, they would have learnt. Turned out my ClearType settings hugely affected the rendering of mentioned font (ClearType is antialiasing method on Windows, when you enable it, it goes through manual calibration process, hence every Windows machine may have radically different config) Don't go wild with colors and fonts for main content of the page. The more standard ones you use, the better chance it will render well for every user. Not everyone has same device with same config as yours.

jsmthrowaway 11y ago
When you're aware that high contrast can exacerbate and trigger scoptic sensitivity reactions in those with dyslexia, that page takes on a different tone.
- cuckcuckspruce 11y ago
  Okay, so should I have to provide a screen reader download with my website as well? If you have a condition that between 5 - 17% of the world has[1] then you should be responsible for setting up your own environment (possibly with the help of your OS) the way it works for you. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia#Epidemiology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia#Epidemiology
  - jsmthrowaway 11y ago
    You want a huge portion of the world, most of whom not knowing how, to override your stylesheet because you can't be bothered to take five seconds to ease up on contrast (or even consider it)? Please tell me you're joking. This is why the ADA happened.
    - cuckcuckspruce 11y ago
      >You want a huge portion of the world, most of whom not knowing how, to override your stylesheet because you can't be bothered to take five seconds to ease up on contrast (or even consider it)? No, but given the way that the web and browsers are designed, along with the way that my site is designed the option is there for people that want to take it. Again, should I have to provide a link to a spoken version of my website in case somebody who is blind doesn't have a screen reader installed? ADA is about making things accessible. So long as somebody can, with reasonable accommodation, access my website (for example, my design being simple and trivially overridable with user styles) then I'm accessible. If someone with dyslexia cannot handle the contrast levels of my site because a small minority of dyslexic users have their dyslexia triggered by that amount of contract then that is precisely what user style sheets are for, and I don't think it's unreasonable to ask somebody who is a minority of a minority to use the tools that are provided implicitly for them to configure things in a way that is easier for them.
  - Angostura 11y ago
    More likely 5%-17% of your readers will just piss off somewhere more friendly.
    - cuckcuckspruce 11y ago
      As is their right, certainly.
- jakub_g 11y ago
  I didn't know about SSS. If you have it, I feel very sorry for you. Do you use some special apps for minimizing the effects? It's true that modern devices, particularly mobiles, emit too much light. I always set device/monitor brightness to very low. Additionally I use f.lux/twilight to shift colors slightly towards red. When the page is black on white, I can adjust brightness enough to not bother me too much. But when the page is gray on gray thin font, the only way to read the text is to enable custom stylesheet that changes font to black Georgia. Easy on desktop, not so easy on mobile.

by jakub_g 11y ago

jsmthrowaway 11y ago

When you're aware that high contrast can exacerbate and trigger scoptic sensitivity reactions in those with dyslexia, that page takes on a different tone.

cuckcuckspruce 11y ago
Okay, so should I have to provide a screen reader download with my website as well? If you have a condition that between 5 - 17% of the world has[1] then you should be responsible for setting up your own environment (possibly with the help of your OS) the way it works for you. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia#Epidemiology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia#Epidemiology
- jsmthrowaway 11y ago
  You want a huge portion of the world, most of whom not knowing how, to override your stylesheet because you can't be bothered to take five seconds to ease up on contrast (or even consider it)? Please tell me you're joking. This is why the ADA happened.
  - cuckcuckspruce 11y ago
    >You want a huge portion of the world, most of whom not knowing how, to override your stylesheet because you can't be bothered to take five seconds to ease up on contrast (or even consider it)? No, but given the way that the web and browsers are designed, along with the way that my site is designed the option is there for people that want to take it. Again, should I have to provide a link to a spoken version of my website in case somebody who is blind doesn't have a screen reader installed? ADA is about making things accessible. So long as somebody can, with reasonable accommodation, access my website (for example, my design being simple and trivially overridable with user styles) then I'm accessible. If someone with dyslexia cannot handle the contrast levels of my site because a small minority of dyslexic users have their dyslexia triggered by that amount of contract then that is precisely what user style sheets are for, and I don't think it's unreasonable to ask somebody who is a minority of a minority to use the tools that are provided implicitly for them to configure things in a way that is easier for them.
- Angostura 11y ago
  More likely 5%-17% of your readers will just piss off somewhere more friendly.
  - cuckcuckspruce 11y ago
    As is their right, certainly.
jakub_g 11y ago
I didn't know about SSS. If you have it, I feel very sorry for you. Do you use some special apps for minimizing the effects? It's true that modern devices, particularly mobiles, emit too much light. I always set device/monitor brightness to very low. Additionally I use f.lux/twilight to shift colors slightly towards red. When the page is black on white, I can adjust brightness enough to not bother me too much. But when the page is gray on gray thin font, the only way to read the text is to enable custom stylesheet that changes font to black Georgia. Easy on desktop, not so easy on mobile.