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To be fair, I was rather confused when reading the title. I tough the original JADE was being sued. Now most Google results are related to new JADE lang. Obviou
by jpambrun 11y ago
To be fair, I was rather confused when reading the title. I tough the original JADE was being sued. Now most Google results are related to new JADE lang. Obviously, there is a trademark issue. The fact that HN seems to like this new JADE more should be irrelevant. I am surprised to witness such a biased reaction here.
- dang 11y agoOk, let's add "Node.js template engine" to the title. That's the project's self-description at https://github.com/pugjs/jade https://github.com/pugjs/jade. We also changed "lawsuit" to "trademark" in the title, since it's not clear that there's a lawsuit and it is clear that there's a trademark.
- jpambrun 11y agoThe title is much clearer now. However, the need for such adjustments sort of support the argument that the orignal JADE trademark needs to be enforced in order to prevent confusion.
- niftylettuce 11y agoSee https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11004716 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11004716, hope they try to enforce that.
- jpambrun 11y agoI saw what you did. I don't think it is particularly productive nor mature. Aside from that, I don't care enough about either JADEs to contribute further to the debate. Edit: I meant productive in the context of the current litigation. I am not supporting any side in this argument. I am, however, supporting the right of the JADE company to try to enforce their trademarks.
- niftylettuce 11y agoIt took 1 hour of my day to stand up for something. It was very productive, reminded me of how to setup CNAME's and domains very quickly for MVP's, and I made a lot of people laugh (and reckon that they too shouldn't give in to unenforcable nonsense like this, especially with trademarks that are ABANDONED). 2000+ NPM packages, 100's of blog posts, tons of references, and all this was going on for years. Are you really supporting these people? This isn't a debate, it's pure hilarity :).
- rodgerd 11y agoExactly - this is literally the correct use of trademark law. HN having a tantrum about it speaks poorly of the posters here.
- niftylettuce 11y agoNo, it is not.
- korethr 11y agoIf the purpose and correct use of trademarks is not to be a legally-protected unique identifier to prevent confusion amongst products of the same type/class or in the same market, then what, pray tell, is it's correct use?
- tomjen3 11y agoIf it was, why would companies be allowed to sell/sub license trademarks without the underlying product?
- curun1r 11y agoThe purpose of trademarks is to protect consumers, not companies. From what I can tell about the trademark owner in this case, they make logistics software for shipping. I fail to see how a consumer could confuse that with an HTML template engine. It's past time to recognize that 'software' is way too broad a category for a single trademark. As 'software eats the world' and more and more industries are automated, we need to break that down into more granular categories.
- jpambrun 11y agoI don't know much about the original JADE company, but from their website "JADE 7 is a robust development platform for business applications" where programmes are written in the JADE language. This is obviously an issue when searching for JADE tutorials or hiring JADE programming experts for instance.