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Globally open borders. Allowing people move freely (globally), following opportunity, seems like the best way to reduce global inequality. We allow everything e

Globally open borders. Allowing people move freely (globally), following opportunity, seems like the best way to reduce global inequality. We allow everything else to move quite freely but if you've ever dated a foreigner or god forbid had to flee home you will understand the struggles people face when trying to move across restricted borders. It seems like a study into how globally open borders would affect inequality and the general well-being of global society would be a valuable endeavour.

kavalg 11y ago
What are the positive effects that you expect? Saying "reducing global inequality", do you mean something like communism, where everybody shall be equal? Please, don't take my question negatively. I have myself lived in a communist country and I think it had both good and bad parts. Essentially it boils down to whether everybody becomes equally miserable or equally happy. Another problem that I could see with globally open borders, is that people may not actually want it. They tend to side with similar ones (race, language, religion,sexual orientation, income, mentality etc). This has been shown scientifically in 1971 in Thomas Schelling's segregation model. We are actually witnessing this on a very large scale all over the western world. Have a look at Germany for example. There are about 2-3 generations (~3 millions) of Turks that have not dissolved in the German culture and are actually quite compact from a social networking perspective. People have been like this for centuries and I don't think it is realistic or even fair to expect they will change (e.g. Kurds, Gipsies ...). Even in the US, which has a good reputation of being able to dissolve immigrants into the US culture, we see Chinese and black neighbourhoods. That said, I do think that it makes sense to do research on how such segregated groups may live together (in close proximity) peacefully and sustainably. I guess that to some extent these problems are a subject of the military science, although it is probably trying to solve the opposite problems as well (i.e. divide and conquer).
- rorykoehler 11y ago
  The goal is not to dissolve but for everyone to respect and accept. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau puts it perfectly in this video: https://www.facebook.com/quartznews/videos/1097902360243465/ https://www.facebook.com/quartznews/videos/1097902360243465/
uglysexy 11y ago
Global open borders would create chaos. Imagine if homes didn't have fences or doors and anyone can just walk in & out of your home. The argument of open borders as "the best way to reduce global inequality" is pure myth. How do you explain all the poor black people in Chicago or all the poor Mexicans in Los Angeles. These are people whose families have been living in America for generations yet are still poor. How about the fact that upper-class Indians are the ones who get work or student visas but the lower caste Indians don't have the equal opportunity. I would ask people to address the inequalities in their home countries first before blaming other countries. I think the answer is to first address the reasons why 2nd or 3rd world countries remain as they are, preventing the citizens of that country (and the country in general) to become more prosperous. There are so many countries that are blessed with so much natural resources and human talent yet remain 2nd or 3rd world. I think the reason for this are: corruption, graft, cronyism, elitism, colonialism, etc. Fix this so people don't have to migrate/flee to the few first world countries - which is not sustainable.

kavalg 11y ago

What are the positive effects that you expect? Saying "reducing global inequality", do you mean something like communism, where everybody shall be equal? Please, don't take my question negatively. I have myself lived in a communist country and I think it had both good and bad parts. Essentially it boils down to whether everybody becomes equally miserable or equally happy. Another problem that I could see with globally open borders, is that people may not actually want it. They tend to side with similar ones (race, language, religion,sexual orientation, income, mentality etc). This has been shown scientifically in 1971 in Thomas Schelling's segregation model. We are actually witnessing this on a very large scale all over the western world. Have a look at Germany for example. There are about 2-3 generations (~3 millions) of Turks that have not dissolved in the German culture and are actually quite compact from a social networking perspective. People have been like this for centuries and I don't think it is realistic or even fair to expect they will change (e.g. Kurds, Gipsies ...). Even in the US, which has a good reputation of being able to dissolve immigrants into the US culture, we see Chinese and black neighbourhoods. That said, I do think that it makes sense to do research on how such segregated groups may live together (in close proximity) peacefully and sustainably. I guess that to some extent these problems are a subject of the military science, although it is probably trying to solve the opposite problems as well (i.e. divide and conquer).

rorykoehler 11y ago
The goal is not to dissolve but for everyone to respect and accept. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau puts it perfectly in this video: https://www.facebook.com/quartznews/videos/1097902360243465/ https://www.facebook.com/quartznews/videos/1097902360243465/

uglysexy 11y ago

Global open borders would create chaos. Imagine if homes didn't have fences or doors and anyone can just walk in & out of your home. The argument of open borders as "the best way to reduce global inequality" is pure myth. How do you explain all the poor black people in Chicago or all the poor Mexicans in Los Angeles. These are people whose families have been living in America for generations yet are still poor. How about the fact that upper-class Indians are the ones who get work or student visas but the lower caste Indians don't have the equal opportunity. I would ask people to address the inequalities in their home countries first before blaming other countries. I think the answer is to first address the reasons why 2nd or 3rd world countries remain as they are, preventing the citizens of that country (and the country in general) to become more prosperous. There are so many countries that are blessed with so much natural resources and human talent yet remain 2nd or 3rd world. I think the reason for this are: corruption, graft, cronyism, elitism, colonialism, etc. Fix this so people don't have to migrate/flee to the few first world countries - which is not sustainable.