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Google and NSA may team up over cyberattacks

13 points by skennedy 17y ago

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shrikant 17y ago
Under the arrangement, the NSA would not be viewing user searches or e-mail accounts, the sources said. Google also would not be sharing proprietary data with the NSA, they said. Riiight. So the NSA is helping Google for the good of the world?
- pavs 17y ago
  >Riiight. So the NSA is helping Google for the good of the world? Lets think of a hypothetical scenario. Google and NSA decides to collaborate, but they keep this collaboration under the wraps and go through great lengths to make sure that no one finds out about this collaboration. Their reason for keeping it secret is to avoid reaction like yours. Yet the information of their collaboration becomes public. Would your views about this collaboration be any different from what it is now? My point being, its a no win situation. Any NSA collaboration in to _anything_ or with _anyone_ will be looked in to with extreme cynicism and perhaps, to a certain extend, rightly so. It is under NSA's jurisdiction to investigate this matter since national cyber security is at stake and it is also in Google's interest to collaborate since they were one of the several victims. NSA is not helping for the good of the world. NSA is helping for the benefit of USA cyber security (which is also a national security matter). Google is under no legal obligation to share proprietary code or information regarding user searches and e-mail accounts.
- rksprst 17y ago
  They're helping Google so they can better learn about the capabilities of the Chinese hackers and how to secure vital US political/military/intelligence/financial systems from further attacks.
dublinclontarf 17y ago
Hmmmff. even if I did wan't to do something the best I could manage would be to use and have my friends use encryption for all further gmail contact. Google already has a record of my mail for the last 6 years, even if I deleted it all.
- nfnaaron 17y ago
  Even if you deleted your gmail, and it was eventually actually deleted by Google (or even, if you never had a gmail account), the other half of a good many of your messages would still exist in other peoples' gmail accounts. Depending on how diligent or lax your correspondents were in trimming responses (I'm going with lax), a high 90-ish percentage of everything you wrote could still exist in those correspondents' accounts. It's out there, man!

13 points by skennedy 17y ago

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Under the arrangement, the NSA would not be viewing user searches or e-mail accounts, the sources said. Google also would not be sharing proprietary data with the NSA, they said. Riiight. So the NSA is helping Google for the good of the world?

pavs 17y ago
>Riiight. So the NSA is helping Google for the good of the world? Lets think of a hypothetical scenario. Google and NSA decides to collaborate, but they keep this collaboration under the wraps and go through great lengths to make sure that no one finds out about this collaboration. Their reason for keeping it secret is to avoid reaction like yours. Yet the information of their collaboration becomes public. Would your views about this collaboration be any different from what it is now? My point being, its a no win situation. Any NSA collaboration in to _anything_ or with _anyone_ will be looked in to with extreme cynicism and perhaps, to a certain extend, rightly so. It is under NSA's jurisdiction to investigate this matter since national cyber security is at stake and it is also in Google's interest to collaborate since they were one of the several victims. NSA is not helping for the good of the world. NSA is helping for the benefit of USA cyber security (which is also a national security matter). Google is under no legal obligation to share proprietary code or information regarding user searches and e-mail accounts.
rksprst 17y ago
They're helping Google so they can better learn about the capabilities of the Chinese hackers and how to secure vital US political/military/intelligence/financial systems from further attacks.

dublinclontarf 17y ago

Hmmmff. even if I did wan't to do something the best I could manage would be to use and have my friends use encryption for all further gmail contact. Google already has a record of my mail for the last 6 years, even if I deleted it all.

nfnaaron 17y ago
Even if you deleted your gmail, and it was eventually actually deleted by Google (or even, if you never had a gmail account), the other half of a good many of your messages would still exist in other peoples' gmail accounts. Depending on how diligent or lax your correspondents were in trimming responses (I'm going with lax), a high 90-ish percentage of everything you wrote could still exist in those correspondents' accounts. It's out there, man!