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I think this is important for 'average' dwellers and not just low-income folks. My wife won't live in an apartment ("high-density") area because groceries are

I think this is important for 'average' dwellers and not just low-income folks. My wife won't live in an apartment ("high-density") area because groceries are hard to get inside. Car-->fridge distance matters a hell of a lot to her. But we can solve that problem.

jacquesm 11y ago
> Car-->fridge distance matters a hell of a lot to her. That's interesting, is there a particular reason for this or is this a nice illustration of 'first world problems'? To have both a car and a fridge, the money to stock the fridge and then to trip over the distance from the car to the fridge (which can easily be made light enough by using a luggage trolley or by asking the s.o. to assist) as a major stumbling block in the selection of housing is something I never considered possible. I see a lot of good reasons for wanting to live in an actual house rather than in an apartment building (I'm living in an apartment building at the moment for the first time in 40 years) but that one never occurred to me.
- mlent 11y ago
  I'd agree -- as someone living in Europe, the idea of grocery shopping by car itself is already pretty luxurious. Worrying about the distance between car and fridge sounds silly when most of us are used to walking half to one kilometer (.7 miles) to the nearest supermarket and taking everything back by foot. Several times per week. Not to mention that many apartment buildings don't have elevators...
  - lucb1e 11y ago
    > as someone living in Europe, the idea of grocery shopping by car itself is already pretty luxurious Wait what? As European students, my girlfriend and I already do groceries by car. My parents and her parents as well. My grandparents as well. Unless you happen to live next to the supermarket, everyone does as far as I know. What country are you from? To me it doesn't sound luxurious to do groceries by car, it sounds like poverty to have to go by foot for a kilometer while carrying heavy grocery bags.

jacquesm 11y ago

> Car-->fridge distance matters a hell of a lot to her. That's interesting, is there a particular reason for this or is this a nice illustration of 'first world problems'? To have both a car and a fridge, the money to stock the fridge and then to trip over the distance from the car to the fridge (which can easily be made light enough by using a luggage trolley or by asking the s.o. to assist) as a major stumbling block in the selection of housing is something I never considered possible. I see a lot of good reasons for wanting to live in an actual house rather than in an apartment building (I'm living in an apartment building at the moment for the first time in 40 years) but that one never occurred to me.

mlent 11y ago
I'd agree -- as someone living in Europe, the idea of grocery shopping by car itself is already pretty luxurious. Worrying about the distance between car and fridge sounds silly when most of us are used to walking half to one kilometer (.7 miles) to the nearest supermarket and taking everything back by foot. Several times per week. Not to mention that many apartment buildings don't have elevators...
- lucb1e 11y ago
  > as someone living in Europe, the idea of grocery shopping by car itself is already pretty luxurious Wait what? As European students, my girlfriend and I already do groceries by car. My parents and her parents as well. My grandparents as well. Unless you happen to live next to the supermarket, everyone does as far as I know. What country are you from? To me it doesn't sound luxurious to do groceries by car, it sounds like poverty to have to go by foot for a kilometer while carrying heavy grocery bags.