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Can you describe this sponsored/organic content dichotomy? To get noticed, you have to have upvotes. If you have upvotes, that means that users appreciated the

by lawpoop 11y ago

Can you describe this sponsored/organic content dichotomy? To get noticed, you have to have upvotes. If you have upvotes, that means that users appreciated the content. If, say, a company or person is promoting themselves and the community upvotes it, I don't see any problem with it. That's how it's supposed to work. But I don't think that's what you mean by 'disguise'. I would guess rather that you mean that some entity is paying the reddit the company to create artificial upvotes (i.e. not originating from users) and maybe even paid commenters. I personally would be surprised if there were a lot of this clearly happening (there's a number of people on reddit that make a 'career' out of debunking stories, identifying brigades, etc). Can you point to some popular posts presently on reddit that are examples of it?

fweespeech 11y ago
> Can you point to some popular posts presently on reddit that are examples of it? http://www.redditsecrets.com/buy-reddit-accounts http://www.redditsecrets.com/buy-reddit-accounts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=725562.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=725562.0 https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/32rr56/do_people_actually_sell_reddit_accounts/ https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/32rr56/do_peo... You can build a small voting ring for a few hundred dollars to boost posts. The problem is all of Reddit's countermeasures to reduce spam made it hard to tell how successful these things are. However, the fact people are still buying in 2016, implies at least some people succeed at it. > Can you describe this sponsored/organic content dichotomy? Really, only Reddit can say how bad this problem is but my guess its non-negligible and cutting into their monetization via native ads as its basically an end run around paying Reddit.
- RubyPinch 11y ago
  "However, the fact people are still buying in 2016, implies at least some people succeed at it." "However, the fact people are still sending money to random emails they get, implies at least some people get the money they were promised in return."
anon987 11y ago
http://www.slideshare.net/reddit/reddit-brands-of-the-year-2014-45902899 http://www.slideshare.net/reddit/reddit-brands-of-the-year-2... I assume that's the official Reddit SlideShare account.
deathhand 11y ago
If I then have a ring of people manipulating voting and nothing is done about it. Is it still organic? I can easily see the monetary incentive to such practices due to the traffic volumes. Heck I could even see it on HN. If I wanted my techy blog to be on the front page of HN I know I would land that dream job...

by lawpoop 11y ago

fweespeech 11y ago

> Can you point to some popular posts presently on reddit that are examples of it? http://www.redditsecrets.com/buy-reddit-accounts http://www.redditsecrets.com/buy-reddit-accounts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=725562.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=725562.0 https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/32rr56/do_people_actually_sell_reddit_accounts/ https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/32rr56/do_peo... You can build a small voting ring for a few hundred dollars to boost posts. The problem is all of Reddit's countermeasures to reduce spam made it hard to tell how successful these things are. However, the fact people are still buying in 2016, implies at least some people succeed at it. > Can you describe this sponsored/organic content dichotomy? Really, only Reddit can say how bad this problem is but my guess its non-negligible and cutting into their monetization via native ads as its basically an end run around paying Reddit.

RubyPinch 11y ago
"However, the fact people are still buying in 2016, implies at least some people succeed at it." "However, the fact people are still sending money to random emails they get, implies at least some people get the money they were promised in return."

anon987 11y ago

http://www.slideshare.net/reddit/reddit-brands-of-the-year-2014-45902899 http://www.slideshare.net/reddit/reddit-brands-of-the-year-2... I assume that's the official Reddit SlideShare account.

deathhand 11y ago

If I then have a ring of people manipulating voting and nothing is done about it. Is it still organic? I can easily see the monetary incentive to such practices due to the traffic volumes. Heck I could even see it on HN. If I wanted my techy blog to be on the front page of HN I know I would land that dream job...