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Ignoring the hypocritical nature of this statement, I take offense in this generalization in particular. If you're an engineer with a family here in SV, you ca

Ignoring the hypocritical nature of this statement, I take offense in this generalization in particular. If you're an engineer with a family here in SV, you cannot take a sabbatical. In most cases you need to get a job in a week or the rent will drive you to bankruptcy.

mattmanser 11y ago
Oh come on with the hyperbole, if you didn't spend so much money on a nice area and expensive stuff you could afford it easily. I don't get people who are so smart and yet simultaneously so stupid that they think spending $100,000 a year is normal. Wake up, you're rich, you're just too stupid to realize you could be living at a much cheaper level.
- gedy 11y ago
  Hey, you know that the vast majority of businesses are not very friendly to remote work, and moving away from these areas frequently means a pay cut or sometimes inability to find work? I'm not defending this at all, as I think it's stupid, but they are not "rich". They are frankly just less screwed than other middle class folks.
  - mattmanser 11y ago
    The median household income in the US is $51,939 (2013). You seriously think having double or probably triple from just one salary isn't rich? And where exactly are all your caterers and cleaners and gardeners and nannies and baristas and tavern workers and shop people living and buying their food with their minimum wage in the bay area? Obviously they aren't remote working. Perspective is a bitch.
    - yarou 11y ago
      >You seriously think having double or probably triple from just one salary isn't rich? First of all, cost of living varies widely from locality to locality. Making 90k a year in middle of nowhere Idaho or some other piece of flyover country is totally different than making 150k in an urban area like NYC or SF. Saying: "welp, it's your fault your cost of living is so high, you should move 2 hours away to Sacramento, stupid" is not only incredibly naive, but borders on a level of ignorance that I haven't seen in quite some time.
    - bduerst 11y ago
      SF has the highest CPI and rent index in the entire U.S., so comparing it with median salary of the U.S. is non-sequitur. ...Especially when talking about perspective.
- Arjuna 11y ago
  Based on when you joined HN, I think it is safe to conclude that you have been here long enough to know the high signal-to-noise ratio that the community strives for here. I think that there are more eloquent and meaningful ways to express your opinion and disagree [1][2]. Just a friendly reminder: 1. There is another human being on the other side of the conversation. 2. Practice compassion when responding. ---- [1] http://paulgraham.com/disagree.html http://paulgraham.com/disagree.html [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Graham's_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Graham's_Hierarchy_o...
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svhoapres 11y ago
You probably shouldn't be living in SV if the rent is so expensive that if you lose your job then you go homeless in a month.

mattmanser 11y ago

Oh come on with the hyperbole, if you didn't spend so much money on a nice area and expensive stuff you could afford it easily. I don't get people who are so smart and yet simultaneously so stupid that they think spending $100,000 a year is normal. Wake up, you're rich, you're just too stupid to realize you could be living at a much cheaper level.

gedy 11y ago
Hey, you know that the vast majority of businesses are not very friendly to remote work, and moving away from these areas frequently means a pay cut or sometimes inability to find work? I'm not defending this at all, as I think it's stupid, but they are not "rich". They are frankly just less screwed than other middle class folks.
- mattmanser 11y ago
  The median household income in the US is $51,939 (2013). You seriously think having double or probably triple from just one salary isn't rich? And where exactly are all your caterers and cleaners and gardeners and nannies and baristas and tavern workers and shop people living and buying their food with their minimum wage in the bay area? Obviously they aren't remote working. Perspective is a bitch.
  - yarou 11y ago
    >You seriously think having double or probably triple from just one salary isn't rich? First of all, cost of living varies widely from locality to locality. Making 90k a year in middle of nowhere Idaho or some other piece of flyover country is totally different than making 150k in an urban area like NYC or SF. Saying: "welp, it's your fault your cost of living is so high, you should move 2 hours away to Sacramento, stupid" is not only incredibly naive, but borders on a level of ignorance that I haven't seen in quite some time.
  - bduerst 11y ago
    SF has the highest CPI and rent index in the entire U.S., so comparing it with median salary of the U.S. is non-sequitur. ...Especially when talking about perspective.
Arjuna 11y ago
Based on when you joined HN, I think it is safe to conclude that you have been here long enough to know the high signal-to-noise ratio that the community strives for here. I think that there are more eloquent and meaningful ways to express your opinion and disagree [1][2]. Just a friendly reminder: 1. There is another human being on the other side of the conversation. 2. Practice compassion when responding. ---- [1] http://paulgraham.com/disagree.html http://paulgraham.com/disagree.html [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Graham's_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Graham's_Hierarchy_o...

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svhoapres 11y ago

You probably shouldn't be living in SV if the rent is so expensive that if you lose your job then you go homeless in a month.