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The living conditions of Chinese workers have been vastly improved over the last decade.
by netheril96 11y ago
The living conditions of Chinese workers have been vastly improved over the last decade.
- Kinnard 11y agoCould you cite some sources?
- netheril96 11y agohttp://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/gdp-per-capita-ppp http://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/gdp-per-capita-ppp http://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/wages http://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/wages http://www.statista.com/statistics/278349/average-annual-salary-of-an-employee-in-china/ http://www.statista.com/statistics/278349/average-annual-sal...
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- Retric 11y agoYour assuming only a single factor was involved. Pollution and corruption mean harm can be widespread while benefits are concentrated. Air pollution for example is killing ~1.6 million people per year in China, the dead are hardly better off. PS: Wages are only one factor among many.
- netheril96 11y agoThen come to China and talk to these workers. Ask them if their living conditions have been vastly improved. Ask them if their life has been greatly better than years ago. Ask them if they are grateful for the government and Communist Party. The answers to all these will be a resounding yes. People in the developed countries do not understand what real poverty and despair is. If you had lived the lives they have, pollution would be your least concerns.
- Retric 11y agoBe careful when asking people sensitive questions in places without free speech. Peoples public vs. private descriptions of what's going on is often significantly different.
- netheril96 11y agoChina's censorship does not work that way. If you could read Chinese, you could find plenty of criticism and diatribes against the Chinese government and its leaders, not unlike in the US. What China censors are any content (news or posts) that may lead to people self-organize, whatever their views are. I am a Chinese born in and lived in China for 24 years. That Chinese lives have been dramatically improved in the last decade is as common sense as the earth being round here. This discussion is off-topic. You should message me if you want to learn more about China. Your views on China is obviously through the lens of Western media, which are not wrong on the facts but usually misleading as they willfully ignores anything positive here.
- Retric 11y agoI have mostly spoken to and worked with people that have left China so my views may be biased. However, it's gotten worse is a fairly common refrain.
- DominikR 11y agoIn the early sixties there was a great famine in China where an estimated 15-45 million civilians starved to death. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine I oppose any form of Socialism, but even I have to admit that China has improved far beyond anything we could have imagined 30 years ago. It is now one of the largest economies in the world. People have housing, education and access to medical care. No one is starving there anymore. And not only did they improve their own standard of living, they now go about investing in large scale infrastructure in Africa which has the potential to improve the lives of millions there in the long run.