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And just when I was about to choose between Parse and Google's Firebase. Makes me wonder if Firebase will follow the same path through acquisition, seeming sta

And just when I was about to choose between Parse and Google's Firebase. Makes me wonder if Firebase will follow the same path through acquisition, seeming stability, followed by closing? As far as similar open-source systems, it seems like Mozilla's Kinto compares favorably to Parse after it's code is released: http://kinto.readthedocs.org/en/latest/overview.html http://kinto.readthedocs.org/en/latest/overview.html There's a nice table there comparing the different services' features.

chrstphrhrt 11y ago
Whoah Kinto looks cool. Thanks for pointing that out. I'm one of the Ramses devs http://ramses.tech http://ramses.tech and we've been working on related problems from an "executable spec" angle. Seems backend automation is about abstracting storage/syncing and also about making development fast and accessible to different skill levels.
nawazdhandala 11y ago
Did you check out CloudBoost.io? Its an open platform on Docker + also available as a managed service.
- knicholes 11y ago
  Can someone tell me why this was downvoted? I couldn't find anything wrong with cloudboost.io except for the absence of a Dockerfile in their dockerhub repo. [edit] Oh, because of spamming. Nevermind.
  - livingparadox 11y ago
    Thanks for the explanation in the edit. I also upvoted the comment for balance.
mayop100 11y ago
[Firebase founder here] We're not going anywhere. We have strong backing here at Google and are continuing to make big investments in our platform. You'll see big things from us soon. What makes us different? Firebase is very complementary to Google's other product offerings. Cloud for one, as well as Angular, Polymer, GCM, etc.
- mgrpowers 11y ago
  I hope you're right. I've really enjoyed using your service and plan on spinning up a new env very soon. Thanks for such a great product!
- odbol_ 11y ago
  Tell that to Wave/Reader/Google TV/etc. I love me some Firebase, but I don't trust Google for a second. They kill projects off all the time, with no regard to the communities built around them.
- aikah 11y ago
  "We're not going anywhere." I'd like another answer like. "We are thinking about providing a community version that one can deploy on its own servers, then we provide the IaaS when the customer might want to scale". If Parse had an opersource version to begin with, it would have been much much more successful and people would have been less worried about building on a third party platform. If Firebase closes tomorrow there will be no migration strategy for people who built their infrastructure around Firebase. > Firebase is very complementary to Google's other product offerings Google is a big org. Tomorrow some upper executive you don't even know might decide your product doesn't add value anymore. You know that.
  - karmelapple 11y ago
    > If Firebase closes tomorrow there will be no migration strategy for people who built their infrastructure around Firebase. To be fair, the same thing could have been said about Parse yesterday. Thankfully they've done as good a job as can be expected in releasing an open source implementation. But indeed, I might have stuck with Firebase had there been something like that available. Instead, we switched while patiently waiting for a js implementation that supported offline sync. Any updates on the availability of that?
  - DannyBee 11y ago
    "Google is a big org. Tomorrow some upper executive you don't even know might decide your product doesn't add value anymore. You know that. " This demonstrates a pretty strong misunderstanding of how google actually works.
arungupta 11y ago
[Couchbase Developer Advocate] You can also look at Couchbase Mobile (http://developer.couchbase.com/mobile http://developer.couchbase.com/mobile) that is an open source mobile database and provides full power of a Couchbase database locally on the device. You can create, update, delete, query, sync and much, much more. Couchbase server provides full querying capabilities using SQL-like syntax for your JSON documents.
- karmelapple 11y ago
  What do you use for cloud hosting the server?
  - arungupta 11y ago
    Couchbase can be hosted on Azure, Amazon, Google, Docker, pick your favorite platform.

chrstphrhrt 11y ago

Whoah Kinto looks cool. Thanks for pointing that out. I'm one of the Ramses devs http://ramses.tech http://ramses.tech and we've been working on related problems from an "executable spec" angle. Seems backend automation is about abstracting storage/syncing and also about making development fast and accessible to different skill levels.

nawazdhandala 11y ago

Did you check out CloudBoost.io? Its an open platform on Docker + also available as a managed service.

knicholes 11y ago
Can someone tell me why this was downvoted? I couldn't find anything wrong with cloudboost.io except for the absence of a Dockerfile in their dockerhub repo. [edit] Oh, because of spamming. Nevermind.
- livingparadox 11y ago
  Thanks for the explanation in the edit. I also upvoted the comment for balance.

mayop100 11y ago

[Firebase founder here] We're not going anywhere. We have strong backing here at Google and are continuing to make big investments in our platform. You'll see big things from us soon. What makes us different? Firebase is very complementary to Google's other product offerings. Cloud for one, as well as Angular, Polymer, GCM, etc.

mgrpowers 11y ago
I hope you're right. I've really enjoyed using your service and plan on spinning up a new env very soon. Thanks for such a great product!
odbol_ 11y ago
Tell that to Wave/Reader/Google TV/etc. I love me some Firebase, but I don't trust Google for a second. They kill projects off all the time, with no regard to the communities built around them.
aikah 11y ago
"We're not going anywhere." I'd like another answer like. "We are thinking about providing a community version that one can deploy on its own servers, then we provide the IaaS when the customer might want to scale". If Parse had an opersource version to begin with, it would have been much much more successful and people would have been less worried about building on a third party platform. If Firebase closes tomorrow there will be no migration strategy for people who built their infrastructure around Firebase. > Firebase is very complementary to Google's other product offerings Google is a big org. Tomorrow some upper executive you don't even know might decide your product doesn't add value anymore. You know that.
- karmelapple 11y ago
  > If Firebase closes tomorrow there will be no migration strategy for people who built their infrastructure around Firebase. To be fair, the same thing could have been said about Parse yesterday. Thankfully they've done as good a job as can be expected in releasing an open source implementation. But indeed, I might have stuck with Firebase had there been something like that available. Instead, we switched while patiently waiting for a js implementation that supported offline sync. Any updates on the availability of that?
- DannyBee 11y ago
  "Google is a big org. Tomorrow some upper executive you don't even know might decide your product doesn't add value anymore. You know that. " This demonstrates a pretty strong misunderstanding of how google actually works.

arungupta 11y ago

[Couchbase Developer Advocate] You can also look at Couchbase Mobile (http://developer.couchbase.com/mobile http://developer.couchbase.com/mobile) that is an open source mobile database and provides full power of a Couchbase database locally on the device. You can create, update, delete, query, sync and much, much more. Couchbase server provides full querying capabilities using SQL-like syntax for your JSON documents.

karmelapple 11y ago
What do you use for cloud hosting the server?
- arungupta 11y ago
  Couchbase can be hosted on Azure, Amazon, Google, Docker, pick your favorite platform.