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> then what you have is not a police force, but a criminal organization. This is the only reasonable conclusion, and it's neither new nor particularly controve

by jMyles 11y ago

> then what you have is not a police force, but a criminal organization. This is the only reasonable conclusion, and it's neither new nor particularly controversial. The real question is: what to do about it?

shitgoose 11y ago
bend
- shitgoose 11y ago
  to all the downvoters - you prefer being shot?
  - finid 11y ago
    Perhaps they'll rather stand up to bullies, criminals and injustice, rather than say, "how low", when asked to "bend" by a bully.
    - shitgoose 11y ago
      "bullies, criminals and injustice" are the police. this whole rather depressing discussion is dedicated to the consequences of standing up to police. again, your choice is simple - bend or be shot.
      - shitgoose 11y ago
        here is another "self-defense" by Toronto police: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx2iQnYMQfM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx2iQnYMQfM first 3 bullets in the chest, then 6 in already dead body, then taser the corpse. policemen successfully argued self-defense and was charged with attempted (???) murder. the only reason why this made to trial, was because video was released to public. otherwise he would have walked.
        rorykoehler 11y ago
        I thought they were supposed to use a taser first and live fire as a last resort? What in the world were they thinking? The guy is clearly not conscious/possibly already dead and then they taser him?
        garthk 11y ago
        This is going to look bad. I'd better tase the corpse so I can claim I tried non-lethal means first, but the guy was unstoppable and I had to kill him.
toomuchtodo 11y ago
Leave. Frictionless and painless. (I left Chicago after living there for ~2 decades)
- logfromblammo 11y ago
  I left after only 2.5 years. I didn't even have any watershed experiences. I just eventually heeded the voice in my head that whispered "get out of here" on a regular basis. So I left, and I didn't exactly stop hearing that voice, but at least it said "this is pathetic" instead. It didn't shut up entirely until I moved again. I can barely even stand to drive around Chicago on the tristate tollway now.
- jMyles 11y ago
  > Frictionless and painless. I can't imagine this is true. What if you are flat broke? What if you have an elderly dependent in a nearby nursing home? A relative in a nearby prison? A child in the local schools? It might be easy for some, but not for all.

by jMyles 11y ago

shitgoose 11y ago

bend

shitgoose 11y ago
to all the downvoters - you prefer being shot?
- finid 11y ago
  Perhaps they'll rather stand up to bullies, criminals and injustice, rather than say, "how low", when asked to "bend" by a bully.
  - shitgoose 11y ago
    "bullies, criminals and injustice" are the police. this whole rather depressing discussion is dedicated to the consequences of standing up to police. again, your choice is simple - bend or be shot.
    - shitgoose 11y ago
      here is another "self-defense" by Toronto police: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx2iQnYMQfM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx2iQnYMQfM first 3 bullets in the chest, then 6 in already dead body, then taser the corpse. policemen successfully argued self-defense and was charged with attempted (???) murder. the only reason why this made to trial, was because video was released to public. otherwise he would have walked.
      - rorykoehler 11y ago
        I thought they were supposed to use a taser first and live fire as a last resort? What in the world were they thinking? The guy is clearly not conscious/possibly already dead and then they taser him?
        garthk 11y ago
        This is going to look bad. I'd better tase the corpse so I can claim I tried non-lethal means first, but the guy was unstoppable and I had to kill him.

toomuchtodo 11y ago

Leave. Frictionless and painless. (I left Chicago after living there for ~2 decades)

logfromblammo 11y ago
I left after only 2.5 years. I didn't even have any watershed experiences. I just eventually heeded the voice in my head that whispered "get out of here" on a regular basis. So I left, and I didn't exactly stop hearing that voice, but at least it said "this is pathetic" instead. It didn't shut up entirely until I moved again. I can barely even stand to drive around Chicago on the tristate tollway now.
jMyles 11y ago
> Frictionless and painless. I can't imagine this is true. What if you are flat broke? What if you have an elderly dependent in a nearby nursing home? A relative in a nearby prison? A child in the local schools? It might be easy for some, but not for all.