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Fair enough. This is probably what you should have expressed in the first instance, it is what I kind of expect from this community, so don't take offense at m

by rayboyd 17y ago

Fair enough. This is probably what you should have expressed in the first instance, it is what I kind of expect from this community, so don't take offense at my rant. I pretty much agree with everything you are saying, gives me some perspective and it adds a lot of value to the conversation (you also just gave me a heads up on an environment I am about to learn).

tumult 17y ago
Here are some things to check out if you are just getting into development for the Cocoa Touch platform. There's probably a lot of drivel out there, now that the platform has become hot shit for marketing and corporate dweebs, so there are people preying on the developer rush. http://www.macruby.org/ http://www.macruby.org/ MacRuby, only works on desktop OS X right now. but I bet it will be on iPhone/iPad within a year. Runs as fast or faster than code written with a lot of Obj-C dynamic stuff in it, much easier to write. Much much easier. Gambit Scheme builds for iPhone no problem. Basically all of the APIs can be reached directly from C instead of through Objective-C. http://jlongster.com/blog/2009/06/17/write-apps-iphone-scheme/ http://jlongster.com/blog/2009/06/17/write-apps-iphone-schem... has some info. At least a couple of commercial apps on iPhone have been written in Scheme. GHC on iPhone http://www.alpheccar.org/en/posts/show/94 http://www.alpheccar.org/en/posts/show/94 so you can compile Haskell for iPhone, and then http://github.com/nfjinjing/mps-iphone http://github.com/nfjinjing/mps-iphone which will help you build stuff for writing with message passing style (Smalltalk) with the iPhone APIs if you don't want to treat them like low-level C functions. JavaScript 'native' environment, bells and whistles included: http://www.appcelerator.com/ http://www.appcelerator.com/
- rayboyd 17y ago
  Thanks for this information, much appreciated. My want to develop on the device is nothing more than a hacker wanting to play with his iphone. My business partner does love the idea of me learning it however... Edit: typo.

by rayboyd 17y ago

tumult 17y ago

Here are some things to check out if you are just getting into development for the Cocoa Touch platform. There's probably a lot of drivel out there, now that the platform has become hot shit for marketing and corporate dweebs, so there are people preying on the developer rush. http://www.macruby.org/ http://www.macruby.org/ MacRuby, only works on desktop OS X right now. but I bet it will be on iPhone/iPad within a year. Runs as fast or faster than code written with a lot of Obj-C dynamic stuff in it, much easier to write. Much much easier. Gambit Scheme builds for iPhone no problem. Basically all of the APIs can be reached directly from C instead of through Objective-C. http://jlongster.com/blog/2009/06/17/write-apps-iphone-scheme/ http://jlongster.com/blog/2009/06/17/write-apps-iphone-schem... has some info. At least a couple of commercial apps on iPhone have been written in Scheme. GHC on iPhone http://www.alpheccar.org/en/posts/show/94 http://www.alpheccar.org/en/posts/show/94 so you can compile Haskell for iPhone, and then http://github.com/nfjinjing/mps-iphone http://github.com/nfjinjing/mps-iphone which will help you build stuff for writing with message passing style (Smalltalk) with the iPhone APIs if you don't want to treat them like low-level C functions. JavaScript 'native' environment, bells and whistles included: http://www.appcelerator.com/ http://www.appcelerator.com/

rayboyd 17y ago
Thanks for this information, much appreciated. My want to develop on the device is nothing more than a hacker wanting to play with his iphone. My business partner does love the idea of me learning it however... Edit: typo.