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"These lawsuits expose a couple of things, one there needs to be more kinds of work classifications than employee and contractor." Why?
by st3v3r 11y ago
"These lawsuits expose a couple of things, one there needs to be more kinds of work classifications than employee and contractor."
Why?
- mc32 11y agoBecause it forces classifying workers as either employee or contractor when a case could be made for another classification of flex-employee. So, for example a good number of über drivers are part timers, which is fine, but if this becomes a normal aspect of the economy, we need to be able to make it automatic for this class of people to get some kind of benefits. Not as much as employees, and more than [$0] as in contractors who need to do their own taxes, benefits, healthcare, etc.
- st3v3r 11y agoI guess I'm not seeing a reason for a third kind. It's pretty clear that drivers are employees. The only reason to introduce anything else would be because Uber/Lyft have lobbied to try and prevent full employee status. This "flex-employee" doesn't seem like something that needs to exist, and would only be used to justify not giving benefits.
- mc32 11y agoSometimes people just want some part time work and don't want to be tied in to one company --allowing them to choose different things on different days, seasons, etc. Long term über and lyft etc won't need drivers, so it's more for the more high touch industries.
- tyingq 11y agoThere are lots and lots of people that have 2 concurrent part time jobs, right now. Not trying to be coy, just trying to understand why we need a new classification.
- st3v3r 11y agoSo they're employees, just part time. Problem solved, without needing yet another classification that will end up doing nothing for workers.
- mc32 11y agoSolved with traditional pt jobs, not so much when you join at will. I may work today but because exams, vacation, etc, might not get back in till weeks from now. Maybe I want to just try out a job. Thjs kind of dipping in and out does not work for a restaurant whose work demand is inelastic. It works for the übers because its elastic. One gal or guy not coming in doesn't cause mayhem in the shift. Surge pricing also helps. You're not going to tolerate surge pricing at restaurants, for example. So the work demand is different, it's much more flexible and you need a classification which allows for dabblers, people who might work for five or ten different outfits one week, none the next and one the third.