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"The top-voted comment as I write this frames someone who recommends WordPress as a solid engineer. Enough said." What's this mean? The top-voted comment descr

by st3v3r 11y ago

"The top-voted comment as I write this frames someone who recommends WordPress as a solid engineer. Enough said." What's this mean? The top-voted comment describes a scenario in which WordPress does meet the business needs, and yet two others decide to go and write from-scratch code. Whereas the other one has time to actually solve the problems the business has. If you're trying to be a WordPress snob, then you're missing the point entirely.

SomeCallMeTim 11y ago
WordPress-as-a-service can meet business needs. But WordPress is an awful idea outside of that. Someone is needed full time to keep it and its plug-ins patched. I would laugh at just about anyone who suggested a self-hosted WordPress as a reasonable solution to anything. There are other sites where you can get managed CMS hosting (wix.com, squarespace.com, even wpengine.com etc.) to build a CMS on. To suggest that "WordPress" is a good solution at this point should get you laughed out of the room. wpengine.com is a reasonable solution. "WordPress", hosted on your own server, is a disaster waiting to happen. I actually tried building something, not on WordPress, but Drupal, and as a result can't imagine recommending anything that's PHP-based being a good technical solution. Call me a PHP snob then. It's so horrible to work with I can't imagine that other solutions can't be better.
- st3v3r 11y ago
  So one, you completely missed the part about her suggesting a hosted solution, and two, you're being a snob about stuff for no other reason than to be a snob. I don't think anyone can take your assessments about this stuff seriously.
  - SomeCallMeTim 11y ago
    >So one, you completely missed the part about her suggesting a hosted solution Hosted != wpengine.com, hosted can mean a managed site with CPanel installed. > you're being a snob about stuff for no other reason than to be a snob No, I avoid using or recommending technology that is insecure-by-design. That includes PHP and just about everything built on it. >I don't think anyone can take your assessments about this stuff seriously. Considering how much I make consulting about "this stuff," I have no worry about how seriously I'm taken. Sorry if I've offended a technology you like, but it's really pretty awful.

by st3v3r 11y ago

SomeCallMeTim 11y ago

WordPress-as-a-service can meet business needs. But WordPress is an awful idea outside of that. Someone is needed full time to keep it and its plug-ins patched. I would laugh at just about anyone who suggested a self-hosted WordPress as a reasonable solution to anything. There are other sites where you can get managed CMS hosting (wix.com, squarespace.com, even wpengine.com etc.) to build a CMS on. To suggest that "WordPress" is a good solution at this point should get you laughed out of the room. wpengine.com is a reasonable solution. "WordPress", hosted on your own server, is a disaster waiting to happen. I actually tried building something, not on WordPress, but Drupal, and as a result can't imagine recommending anything that's PHP-based being a good technical solution. Call me a PHP snob then. It's so horrible to work with I can't imagine that other solutions can't be better.

st3v3r 11y ago
So one, you completely missed the part about her suggesting a hosted solution, and two, you're being a snob about stuff for no other reason than to be a snob. I don't think anyone can take your assessments about this stuff seriously.
- SomeCallMeTim 11y ago
  >So one, you completely missed the part about her suggesting a hosted solution Hosted != wpengine.com, hosted can mean a managed site with CPanel installed. > you're being a snob about stuff for no other reason than to be a snob No, I avoid using or recommending technology that is insecure-by-design. That includes PHP and just about everything built on it. >I don't think anyone can take your assessments about this stuff seriously. Considering how much I make consulting about "this stuff," I have no worry about how seriously I'm taken. Sorry if I've offended a technology you like, but it's really pretty awful.