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Olive oil is NOT healthy. Can you explain how pouring saturated fat on a meal is supposed to improve it? Please show me where the consensus that olive oil is "g

by noondip 11y ago

Olive oil is NOT healthy. Can you explain how pouring saturated fat on a meal is supposed to improve it? Please show me where the consensus that olive oil is "good for you" is claimed to be reached.

maxerickson 11y ago
Olive oil only has a fraction of saturated fat, it is mostly unsaturated fats. I think whatever sources you are leaning on for your claims would have the same issues that all the sources demonstrating good things about olive oil have, there is no central consensus for any of it, making that a pretty weak argument.
- noondip 11y ago
  Firstly, it's mostly monounsaturated fats, which are not necessary in a diet. In order to justify pouring olive oil on a meal, it would have to be really nutrient dense, but nothing could be further from the truth.
  - maxerickson 11y ago
    What do you mean firstly? You said Olive oil is NOT healthy. Can you explain how pouring saturated fat on a meal is supposed to improve it?, don't come back at me like I'm trying to mix things up.
    - noondip 11y ago
      Well, can you explain how adding any saturated fat improves a meal, or not?
      - maxerickson 11y ago
        I never claimed the addition of saturated fat would improve a meal. I don't think a modest amount of saturated fat makes much difference either way (I love me some butter, so I hope I'm right). I think there is a fair chance that there is some truth to all the studies of olive oil consumption that show a net benefit from consuming it.
        noondip 11y ago
        > all the studies of olive oil consumption that show a net benefit from consuming it Well, where are they? I find it laughable how no one ever seems to be able to cite evidence exonerating unhealthy olive oil in these types of discussions.
        maxerickson 11y ago
        There's plenty of citations in industry material like this: http://www.aboutoliveoil.org/oohealthbenefits.pdf http://www.aboutoliveoil.org/oohealthbenefits.pdf (Now that I've pointed you to an easily found resource, will you read the cited works?)
        noondip 11y ago
        > Commissioned by the International Olive Council Okay, now I'm convinced you really are kidding.
        maxerickson 11y ago
        It's an industry sponsored survey of scientific research. That they included a result in it does not impugn the research. (the citations of scientific papers are on the bottom of each page...) Note the in industry material in my comment above. I anticipated this response, I didn't have to edit it to put that in.
        noondip 11y ago
        The citations don't support your conclusion, and neither does the entire paper itself. At best, it shows whole olives are a healthy food to eat from time to time. How can you possibly reason extracting, refining, processing and heating olives make them into "good oils"? My advice for you is, don't allow yourself to be informed by industry, and look for unbiased systematic reviews and meta-analyses instead.
        11y ago

by noondip 11y ago

Olive oil is NOT healthy. Can you explain how pouring saturated fat on a meal is supposed to improve it? Please show me where the consensus that olive oil is "good for you" is claimed to be reached.

maxerickson 11y ago

Olive oil only has a fraction of saturated fat, it is mostly unsaturated fats. I think whatever sources you are leaning on for your claims would have the same issues that all the sources demonstrating good things about olive oil have, there is no central consensus for any of it, making that a pretty weak argument.

noondip 11y ago
Firstly, it's mostly monounsaturated fats, which are not necessary in a diet. In order to justify pouring olive oil on a meal, it would have to be really nutrient dense, but nothing could be further from the truth.
- maxerickson 11y ago
  What do you mean firstly? You said Olive oil is NOT healthy. Can you explain how pouring saturated fat on a meal is supposed to improve it?, don't come back at me like I'm trying to mix things up.
  - noondip 11y ago
    Well, can you explain how adding any saturated fat improves a meal, or not?
    - maxerickson 11y ago
      I never claimed the addition of saturated fat would improve a meal. I don't think a modest amount of saturated fat makes much difference either way (I love me some butter, so I hope I'm right). I think there is a fair chance that there is some truth to all the studies of olive oil consumption that show a net benefit from consuming it.
      - noondip 11y ago
        > all the studies of olive oil consumption that show a net benefit from consuming it Well, where are they? I find it laughable how no one ever seems to be able to cite evidence exonerating unhealthy olive oil in these types of discussions.
        maxerickson 11y ago
        There's plenty of citations in industry material like this: http://www.aboutoliveoil.org/oohealthbenefits.pdf http://www.aboutoliveoil.org/oohealthbenefits.pdf (Now that I've pointed you to an easily found resource, will you read the cited works?)
        noondip 11y ago
        > Commissioned by the International Olive Council Okay, now I'm convinced you really are kidding.
        maxerickson 11y ago
        It's an industry sponsored survey of scientific research. That they included a result in it does not impugn the research. (the citations of scientific papers are on the bottom of each page...) Note the in industry material in my comment above. I anticipated this response, I didn't have to edit it to put that in.
        noondip 11y ago
        The citations don't support your conclusion, and neither does the entire paper itself. At best, it shows whole olives are a healthy food to eat from time to time. How can you possibly reason extracting, refining, processing and heating olives make them into "good oils"? My advice for you is, don't allow yourself to be informed by industry, and look for unbiased systematic reviews and meta-analyses instead.
        11y ago