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> (good) oils Okay, I'll bite. What is a "good oil"? All oil is fat, and consuming fat causes serious health problems. The only "oil" you need are polyunsatura

by noondip 11y ago

> (good) oils Okay, I'll bite. What is a "good oil"? All oil is fat, and consuming fat causes serious health problems. The only "oil" you need are polyunsaturated fatty acids which occur naturally in whole vegetables and nuts.

1_player 11y ago
You catch me ignorant on this. The only oil I consume, apart from naturally occuring ones, is extra virgin olive oil, which the consensus from both sides of the fence is "it's good for you".
- noondip 11y ago
  Olive oil is NOT healthy. Can you explain how pouring saturated fat on a meal is supposed to improve it? Please show me where the consensus that olive oil is "good for you" is claimed to be reached.
  - maxerickson 11y ago
    Olive oil only has a fraction of saturated fat, it is mostly unsaturated fats. I think whatever sources you are leaning on for your claims would have the same issues that all the sources demonstrating good things about olive oil have, there is no central consensus for any of it, making that a pretty weak argument.
    - noondip 11y ago
      Firstly, it's mostly monounsaturated fats, which are not necessary in a diet. In order to justify pouring olive oil on a meal, it would have to be really nutrient dense, but nothing could be further from the truth.
      - maxerickson 11y ago
        What do you mean firstly? You said Olive oil is NOT healthy. Can you explain how pouring saturated fat on a meal is supposed to improve it?, don't come back at me like I'm trying to mix things up.
        noondip 11y ago
        Well, can you explain how adding any saturated fat improves a meal, or not?
        maxerickson 11y ago
        I never claimed the addition of saturated fat would improve a meal. I don't think a modest amount of saturated fat makes much difference either way (I love me some butter, so I hope I'm right). I think there is a fair chance that there is some truth to all the studies of olive oil consumption that show a net benefit from consuming it.
        noondip 11y ago
        > all the studies of olive oil consumption that show a net benefit from consuming it Well, where are they? I find it laughable how no one ever seems to be able to cite evidence exonerating unhealthy olive oil in these types of discussions.
        maxerickson 11y ago
        There's plenty of citations in industry material like this: http://www.aboutoliveoil.org/oohealthbenefits.pdf http://www.aboutoliveoil.org/oohealthbenefits.pdf (Now that I've pointed you to an easily found resource, will you read the cited works?)
        noondip 11y ago
        > Commissioned by the International Olive Council Okay, now I'm convinced you really are kidding.

by noondip 11y ago

1_player 11y ago

You catch me ignorant on this. The only oil I consume, apart from naturally occuring ones, is extra virgin olive oil, which the consensus from both sides of the fence is "it's good for you".

noondip 11y ago
Olive oil is NOT healthy. Can you explain how pouring saturated fat on a meal is supposed to improve it? Please show me where the consensus that olive oil is "good for you" is claimed to be reached.
- maxerickson 11y ago
  Olive oil only has a fraction of saturated fat, it is mostly unsaturated fats. I think whatever sources you are leaning on for your claims would have the same issues that all the sources demonstrating good things about olive oil have, there is no central consensus for any of it, making that a pretty weak argument.
  - noondip 11y ago
    Firstly, it's mostly monounsaturated fats, which are not necessary in a diet. In order to justify pouring olive oil on a meal, it would have to be really nutrient dense, but nothing could be further from the truth.
    - maxerickson 11y ago
      What do you mean firstly? You said Olive oil is NOT healthy. Can you explain how pouring saturated fat on a meal is supposed to improve it?, don't come back at me like I'm trying to mix things up.
      - noondip 11y ago
        Well, can you explain how adding any saturated fat improves a meal, or not?
        maxerickson 11y ago
        I never claimed the addition of saturated fat would improve a meal. I don't think a modest amount of saturated fat makes much difference either way (I love me some butter, so I hope I'm right). I think there is a fair chance that there is some truth to all the studies of olive oil consumption that show a net benefit from consuming it.
        noondip 11y ago
        > all the studies of olive oil consumption that show a net benefit from consuming it Well, where are they? I find it laughable how no one ever seems to be able to cite evidence exonerating unhealthy olive oil in these types of discussions.
        maxerickson 11y ago
        There's plenty of citations in industry material like this: http://www.aboutoliveoil.org/oohealthbenefits.pdf http://www.aboutoliveoil.org/oohealthbenefits.pdf (Now that I've pointed you to an easily found resource, will you read the cited works?)
        noondip 11y ago
        > Commissioned by the International Olive Council Okay, now I'm convinced you really are kidding.