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You would think Parisians would oppose that since it increases the distance traveled by the vehicles which ramps up emissions for literally no good reason at al

You would think Parisians would oppose that since it increases the distance traveled by the vehicles which ramps up emissions for literally no good reason at all.

Retric 11y ago
Taxi regulations where added for a host of really good reasons. This 'rule' is likely an exception for non Taxi companies which Uber is abusing. As to pollution, it's common for taxi's to circulate on public roads while waiting for a fair. So, forcing people to go park may be better from a pollution standpoint.
- FussyZeus 11y ago
  In my experience (unless weather is a factor) most taxi's will park where fares may show up and wait with the engine off, but even if they leave it running idle, idle still uses much less fuel than traveling to the given home, which could be literally anywhere in comparison to where the vehicle is when it drops off a fare, or goes to where a fare may be found.
  - sheepdestroyer 11y ago
    In Japan, taxis do park opportunistically, waiting for customers ; but they let their engines run. All the time, winter like summer. Even when they leave the car to go for a piss/coffee/cigarette at the next convenience store.
- SilasX 11y ago
  Park, yes, return to HQ, no. See my sibling comment about the logic behind the regulation and a better way to meet its goal: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10981731 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10981731
- eloisant 11y ago
  Regulating taxis is good. Not issuing new taxi medaillons, creating a lack of taxis in Paris and making taxi drivers slaves to taxi companies (like G7) who rent them the medaillons (or slaves to banks when they have to pay back a huge loan to buy their own on the black market) is not. It's not good for consumers, it's not good for taxi drivers, it's only good for monopolistic taxi companies. Yet the drivers don't understand that and think their enemy is Uber.
  - Retric 11y ago
    The public benefits somewhat from by reducing the amount of taxi on the street due to external factors (pollution, accidents, congestion etc). The problem, is taxi companies benefit by further constricting supply beyond that point and regulatory capture means incumbents have far to much say. IMO, rather than let some companies sidestep the market by pretending not to be taxi while acting like taxi the correct solution is to issue more Taxi Medallions.

You would think Parisians would oppose that since it increases the distance traveled by the vehicles which ramps up emissions for literally no good reason at all.

Retric 11y ago

Taxi regulations where added for a host of really good reasons. This 'rule' is likely an exception for non Taxi companies which Uber is abusing. As to pollution, it's common for taxi's to circulate on public roads while waiting for a fair. So, forcing people to go park may be better from a pollution standpoint.

FussyZeus 11y ago
In my experience (unless weather is a factor) most taxi's will park where fares may show up and wait with the engine off, but even if they leave it running idle, idle still uses much less fuel than traveling to the given home, which could be literally anywhere in comparison to where the vehicle is when it drops off a fare, or goes to where a fare may be found.
- sheepdestroyer 11y ago
  In Japan, taxis do park opportunistically, waiting for customers ; but they let their engines run. All the time, winter like summer. Even when they leave the car to go for a piss/coffee/cigarette at the next convenience store.
SilasX 11y ago
Park, yes, return to HQ, no. See my sibling comment about the logic behind the regulation and a better way to meet its goal: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10981731 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10981731
eloisant 11y ago
Regulating taxis is good. Not issuing new taxi medaillons, creating a lack of taxis in Paris and making taxi drivers slaves to taxi companies (like G7) who rent them the medaillons (or slaves to banks when they have to pay back a huge loan to buy their own on the black market) is not. It's not good for consumers, it's not good for taxi drivers, it's only good for monopolistic taxi companies. Yet the drivers don't understand that and think their enemy is Uber.
- Retric 11y ago
  The public benefits somewhat from by reducing the amount of taxi on the street due to external factors (pollution, accidents, congestion etc). The problem, is taxi companies benefit by further constricting supply beyond that point and regulatory capture means incumbents have far to much say. IMO, rather than let some companies sidestep the market by pretending not to be taxi while acting like taxi the correct solution is to issue more Taxi Medallions.