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What's wrong with potatoes? Why is getting calories from starch not ideal? Please link to peer reviewed research which supports these hypotheses.

by noondip 11y ago

basch 11y ago
nutrient density. if you have the choice between spinach and potatoes, spinach has more other nutrients per calorie. http://www.peertrainer.com/gfx/en_us/nut_density.jpg http://www.peertrainer.com/gfx/en_us/nut_density.jpg is an example chart i found after 10sec of googling you might say potato is higher than chicken. but im not going to turn potato into muscle, i will turn chicken into muscle. at the end of the day, fat and protein are necessary to survive, starch is optional.
- noondip 11y ago
  > spinach has more other nutrients per calorie Erm .. so? One can't survive on spinach alone, so I don't see this as a reason not to eat potatoes, or other starches. > im not going to turn potato into muscle, i will turn chicken into muscle. Well, why not? Every single whole plant food has a complete amino acid profile and sufficient protein (5-10% of calories).
  - basch 11y ago
    we are talking about losing weight, right? most american meals come with a side of fries, rice, pasta, or bread. digestible carbs like sugar and starch are the easiest thing to cut out of your diet with no other impact. you dont need to start eating some other food to make up for the nutrients you arent getting. you can just cut starches out of your diet. i am talking about being mindful. saying "dont worry about macros" is the antithesis of paying attention to what you eat. for the most part, starches are fillers.
    - noondip 11y ago
      > you dont need to start eating some other food to make up for the nutrients you arent getting. you can just cut starches out of your diet. If you cut out starches, you need to replace those calories with other food. If it isn't vegetables, it'll probably be animal products, which are way less healthy than the innocent potato. > for the most part, starches are fillers I don't think so. "THE potato is a very important constituent of the diet of many civilised nations, and it may be considered to furnish, with bread, the bulk of the food of the rural population of such countries as Poland and Russia. There is little doubt that the Polish or Russian peasant is nevertheless very healthy and able to do extremely hard work under trying conditions. Deficiency diseases such as beriberi, pellagra or scurvy are practically unknown in Poland." The value of whole potato in human nutrition https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1252113/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1252113/
      - basch 11y ago
        how is any of this making the case that potatoes are better than nuts and leaves? if the goal is to lose weight, the calories should NOT be replaced, by meat or otherwise.
        noondip 11y ago
        If the goal is to lose weight, the minimum which ought to be done is replacing fats (9 calories per gram) with carbohydrate (4 calories per gram). That's why eating a potato over nuts is recommended (not that you shouldn't eat nuts - they are great in their own way).

What's wrong with potatoes? Why is getting calories from starch not ideal? Please link to peer reviewed research which supports these hypotheses.

by noondip 11y ago

What's wrong with potatoes? Why is getting calories from starch not ideal? Please link to peer reviewed research which supports these hypotheses.

basch 11y ago

nutrient density. if you have the choice between spinach and potatoes, spinach has more other nutrients per calorie. http://www.peertrainer.com/gfx/en_us/nut_density.jpg http://www.peertrainer.com/gfx/en_us/nut_density.jpg is an example chart i found after 10sec of googling you might say potato is higher than chicken. but im not going to turn potato into muscle, i will turn chicken into muscle. at the end of the day, fat and protein are necessary to survive, starch is optional.

noondip 11y ago
> spinach has more other nutrients per calorie Erm .. so? One can't survive on spinach alone, so I don't see this as a reason not to eat potatoes, or other starches. > im not going to turn potato into muscle, i will turn chicken into muscle. Well, why not? Every single whole plant food has a complete amino acid profile and sufficient protein (5-10% of calories).
- basch 11y ago
  we are talking about losing weight, right? most american meals come with a side of fries, rice, pasta, or bread. digestible carbs like sugar and starch are the easiest thing to cut out of your diet with no other impact. you dont need to start eating some other food to make up for the nutrients you arent getting. you can just cut starches out of your diet. i am talking about being mindful. saying "dont worry about macros" is the antithesis of paying attention to what you eat. for the most part, starches are fillers.
  - noondip 11y ago
    > you dont need to start eating some other food to make up for the nutrients you arent getting. you can just cut starches out of your diet. If you cut out starches, you need to replace those calories with other food. If it isn't vegetables, it'll probably be animal products, which are way less healthy than the innocent potato. > for the most part, starches are fillers I don't think so. "THE potato is a very important constituent of the diet of many civilised nations, and it may be considered to furnish, with bread, the bulk of the food of the rural population of such countries as Poland and Russia. There is little doubt that the Polish or Russian peasant is nevertheless very healthy and able to do extremely hard work under trying conditions. Deficiency diseases such as beriberi, pellagra or scurvy are practically unknown in Poland." The value of whole potato in human nutrition https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1252113/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1252113/
    - basch 11y ago
      how is any of this making the case that potatoes are better than nuts and leaves? if the goal is to lose weight, the calories should NOT be replaced, by meat or otherwise.
      - noondip 11y ago
        If the goal is to lose weight, the minimum which ought to be done is replacing fats (9 calories per gram) with carbohydrate (4 calories per gram). That's why eating a potato over nuts is recommended (not that you shouldn't eat nuts - they are great in their own way).