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I see parallels to PHP initially taking off for web development instead of Python via mod_python. Paradoxically, it was so much fun to build your own web framew

I see parallels to PHP initially taking off for web development instead of Python via mod_python. Paradoxically, it was so much fun to build your own web framework in Python that everyone did, so none got enough traction. By the time Django finally broke through, PHP (with a good-enough mini-framework baked in) already dominated Python for web development, and the fragmentation of the Python world was arguably a contributing factor. Others adopted a third language because of a single mindshare-heavy framework, Rails.

basch 11y ago
php was explicitly designed as a way to make dynamic web pages. it evolved from effort to achieve that goal. mod_python didnt come around until 2000. by then php4 was already out
- moron4hire 11y ago
  PHP was never explicitly designed.
  - basch 11y ago
    semantics? php wasnt written to be a programming language. it was words written with an explicit purpose.
    - moron4hire 11y ago
      No, read the history of PHP. It started out as just a hack for a school assignment. It accumulated hacks to do different things over time. It didn't ever have an explicit design effort until way long after it had been adopted around the world and they decided they might try to make up for some of it's cruft.
      - basch 11y ago
        ok so it is semantics. replace design with written.
        moron4hire 11y ago
        It's only semantics if you believe "intelligent design" is a thing, or that evolution "wants" anything.