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> The next thing I look to see happen is automated speeding tickets. There's no reason radars shouldn't be set up in conjuction with license plate readers, or a

> The next thing I look to see happen is automated speeding tickets. There's no reason radars shouldn't be set up in conjuction with license plate readers, or actually just pulling speed data from cars with in-car transmission ability and tickets being auto-generated to constituents. I'm fairly certain that this happens already in the UK.

brewdad 11y ago
The system I witnessed set up in the UK seems reasonable, if you allow that such a system can ever be reasonable. The cameras capture plates entering and exiting a multiple mile stretch of highway and if your average speed exceeds the threshold, you get cited. No worries about momentary speeding and no need to immediately slam on the brakes as happens with single location cameras in the US.
- JupiterMoon 11y ago
  They have single point checks as well (some of which are variable). Personally I quite like the average speed checks+ as they keep people driving at the speed limit which I like to do myself. + When they are used properly. Often they are used in conjunction with spurious roadworks and a very low limit (I've seen 30mph on a motorway).
  - rconti 11y ago
    Why do you like to drive at the speed limit? Do you find it just happens to be reasonably set, and it happens to be a speed at which you feel comfortable? Have you driven vehicles in which the speed limit feels dangerously fast, as well as vehicles in which the speed limit feels somewhat low? Do you find the speed limit to be a reasonable "upper bound" for travel, with a fair number of people traveling below it? Or do you find it to be an artificial upper bound, with many vehicles traveling very close to that speed? If the latter, how do you feel about the clumping of traffic and inability to complete passes, change lanes for exits, and the like?
    - to3m 11y ago
      Your last sentence sounds so unlike my experiences driving on UK motorways that I imagine the experience just won't translate (for whatever reason).
    - gambiting 11y ago
      I actually have experience driving in multiple countries so I think I can add something to this. In Poland, where I am from, speed limits are retarded. Seriously, the speed limit can change several times on the distance of 1km. Seriously, pick any Polish street on Google StreetView and follow it for a bit - it will keep on going between 90km/h to drop to 40km/h to then go to 60km/h for 100m or so, to go down to 50km/g to go up to 90km/h again. So people sort of pick a middle speed somewhere between those and end up driving over/under the speed limit for 90% of the time. Of course the police knows this so they are usually waiting at this one bit where the speed limit drops for literally 50m of the road for no reason at all. I saw the speed limit falling from 90km/h to just 50km/h in the middle of nowhere, with nothing in sight, and a police car waiting just behind the sign to catch you speeding. In the UK on the other hand, it's much much much better. I never feel like the speed limits don't make sense. As you approach a city, the speed limit goes from 70mph to 50mph, then to 40mph, to finally fall down to 30mph in the city and 20mph in residential areas. I have never seen a situation where the speed limit would change multiple times on one stretch of road. Even driving in the countryside, the speed limit is always 60mph even if the road is not good enough to actually support that speed - you are expected to use your own judgement, if you go into a blind corner going 60mph you are an idiot, there's no need to set up speed limit before every single turn and tree like they do in Poland.

brewdad 11y ago

The system I witnessed set up in the UK seems reasonable, if you allow that such a system can ever be reasonable. The cameras capture plates entering and exiting a multiple mile stretch of highway and if your average speed exceeds the threshold, you get cited. No worries about momentary speeding and no need to immediately slam on the brakes as happens with single location cameras in the US.

JupiterMoon 11y ago
They have single point checks as well (some of which are variable). Personally I quite like the average speed checks+ as they keep people driving at the speed limit which I like to do myself. + When they are used properly. Often they are used in conjunction with spurious roadworks and a very low limit (I've seen 30mph on a motorway).
- rconti 11y ago
  Why do you like to drive at the speed limit? Do you find it just happens to be reasonably set, and it happens to be a speed at which you feel comfortable? Have you driven vehicles in which the speed limit feels dangerously fast, as well as vehicles in which the speed limit feels somewhat low? Do you find the speed limit to be a reasonable "upper bound" for travel, with a fair number of people traveling below it? Or do you find it to be an artificial upper bound, with many vehicles traveling very close to that speed? If the latter, how do you feel about the clumping of traffic and inability to complete passes, change lanes for exits, and the like?
  - to3m 11y ago
    Your last sentence sounds so unlike my experiences driving on UK motorways that I imagine the experience just won't translate (for whatever reason).
  - gambiting 11y ago
    I actually have experience driving in multiple countries so I think I can add something to this. In Poland, where I am from, speed limits are retarded. Seriously, the speed limit can change several times on the distance of 1km. Seriously, pick any Polish street on Google StreetView and follow it for a bit - it will keep on going between 90km/h to drop to 40km/h to then go to 60km/h for 100m or so, to go down to 50km/g to go up to 90km/h again. So people sort of pick a middle speed somewhere between those and end up driving over/under the speed limit for 90% of the time. Of course the police knows this so they are usually waiting at this one bit where the speed limit drops for literally 50m of the road for no reason at all. I saw the speed limit falling from 90km/h to just 50km/h in the middle of nowhere, with nothing in sight, and a police car waiting just behind the sign to catch you speeding. In the UK on the other hand, it's much much much better. I never feel like the speed limits don't make sense. As you approach a city, the speed limit goes from 70mph to 50mph, then to 40mph, to finally fall down to 30mph in the city and 20mph in residential areas. I have never seen a situation where the speed limit would change multiple times on one stretch of road. Even driving in the countryside, the speed limit is always 60mph even if the road is not good enough to actually support that speed - you are expected to use your own judgement, if you go into a blind corner going 60mph you are an idiot, there's no need to set up speed limit before every single turn and tree like they do in Poland.