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>giant pile of reasons for ill-will that the US state and Federal governments have been collecting. Lets please not attack the other states because of Texan sh

>giant pile of reasons for ill-will that the US state and Federal governments have been collecting. Lets please not attack the other states because of Texan shenanigans. The fifty states are each semi-autonomous and as such can implement programs like this. This is an exception, not the norm. >blowback happens through the democratic process Why should it? Maybe Texans who work hard and pay their fines want the scofflaws to be caught like this? Democracy doesn't mean "things I like." It often means "things the average voter likes." Maybe this is "ill will" to you, but to a red state with a strong law and order culture to it, it may not be very controversial at all. You can't clamor for states rights in Texas, but also expect liberal soft-on-crime values. All politics is local. Also, these people have capias warrants out for them at the time of this collection. Deadbeats who don't pay child support, ignore a civil judgements, ignore fines, etc get these. I don't really see a problem with this. If there's abuse here, it lies with how capias warrants are given out, not the technology used to enforce them. Why aren't we addressing the root issue here? Is there really an issue here other than SJW wankering?

JadeNB 11y ago
> Democracy doesn't mean "things I like." It often means "things the average voter likes." That seems like a misrepresentation of the post. jrandomh didn't say "this is undemocratic", but rather (paraphrasing) "this generates ill will". Hoping that mass ill will will (not a typo …) lead to change is not anti-democratic; it is exactly the idea of democracy.
mywittyname 11y ago
> Why aren't we addressing the root issue here? You and I disagree on the root of the issue. The ease of enforcement is going to encourage the already despicable behavior of imposing fines that people aren't able to pay. This technology isn't going to effect middle class people that get the occasional speeding ticket. This is going to ensure that people who couldn't afford the fine are caught and fined again, then thrown in jail. What should happen is that suspects should not be forced to pay the court costs associated with trying them. This eliminates the perverse incentives associated with this technology.

JadeNB 11y ago

> Democracy doesn't mean "things I like." It often means "things the average voter likes." That seems like a misrepresentation of the post. jrandomh didn't say "this is undemocratic", but rather (paraphrasing) "this generates ill will". Hoping that mass ill will will (not a typo …) lead to change is not anti-democratic; it is exactly the idea of democracy.

mywittyname 11y ago

> Why aren't we addressing the root issue here? You and I disagree on the root of the issue. The ease of enforcement is going to encourage the already despicable behavior of imposing fines that people aren't able to pay. This technology isn't going to effect middle class people that get the occasional speeding ticket. This is going to ensure that people who couldn't afford the fine are caught and fined again, then thrown in jail. What should happen is that suspects should not be forced to pay the court costs associated with trying them. This eliminates the perverse incentives associated with this technology.