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Not only is the criminal justice system abusive (a problem itself) it plain isn't working. The thing is... there are some extremely bad people in the system wh

by jqm 11y ago

Not only is the criminal justice system abusive (a problem itself) it plain isn't working. The thing is... there are some extremely bad people in the system who know the ins and outs and consider prison just another place to abuse others while being taken care of. We have too many laws. We spend to much time worrying about little stuff and not enough about big stuff. My personal opinion (I realize this is not likely to be a popular one) is that we need to stop locking people up for little things and return to public hanging for big things. Smoking crack might be stupid but is it really a crime? On the other hand someone brutally killing a child for fun doesn't deserve to even breathe our air. Something like this is beyond rehabilitation. It is broken. Put an end to it without delay and return the raw material to the earth. But don't monkey around with solitary confinement. It is inhumane and in my opinion probably more so than hanging.

tempestn 11y ago
I don't agree with capital punishment at all, for a number of reasons that I won't get into here, but I can at least see a reasonable case being made for it. But public hanging? In what way could that possibly be good for society? If regular capital punishment doesn't work as a deterrent, I can't imagine that making it public would do much better. Although after seeing public hangings the will for capital punishment in general would probably drop sharply, so maybe that would be a benefit. Seriously though, the idea of public hangings is barbaric. I don't disagree with you as far as not locking people up for things like drug use though.
- jqm 11y ago
  And how is what we are doing now not barbaric? Which is actually more barbaric? It turns out people sometimes see the barbarism in others while missing their own. There is a reason public executions happened for so long (and still happen in vast swaths of the world). Partially to serve as warning and as a deterrent and maybe partially so society feels they are participating in punishment (or revenge if you prefer). Is it effective? I would assume to some extent. Maybe we need to revisit some of the concepts of public shame (ok..maybe old school hanging is a bit extreme.. but jut to throw ideas around) rather than hiding offenders behind bars at the hands of sadistic guards and fellow inmates in some grey bureaucracy. Which is my estimation not only doesn't really work but is even more barbaric.

by jqm 11y ago

tempestn 11y ago

I don't agree with capital punishment at all, for a number of reasons that I won't get into here, but I can at least see a reasonable case being made for it. But public hanging? In what way could that possibly be good for society? If regular capital punishment doesn't work as a deterrent, I can't imagine that making it public would do much better. Although after seeing public hangings the will for capital punishment in general would probably drop sharply, so maybe that would be a benefit. Seriously though, the idea of public hangings is barbaric. I don't disagree with you as far as not locking people up for things like drug use though.

jqm 11y ago
And how is what we are doing now not barbaric? Which is actually more barbaric? It turns out people sometimes see the barbarism in others while missing their own. There is a reason public executions happened for so long (and still happen in vast swaths of the world). Partially to serve as warning and as a deterrent and maybe partially so society feels they are participating in punishment (or revenge if you prefer). Is it effective? I would assume to some extent. Maybe we need to revisit some of the concepts of public shame (ok..maybe old school hanging is a bit extreme.. but jut to throw ideas around) rather than hiding offenders behind bars at the hands of sadistic guards and fellow inmates in some grey bureaucracy. Which is my estimation not only doesn't really work but is even more barbaric.