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> Don't you get civil disorder every time a high profile, widely hated criminal gets off with a sentence that's much lighter than people get in the movies? I d

> Don't you get civil disorder every time a high profile, widely hated criminal gets off with a sentence that's much lighter than people get in the movies? I don't remember any such incident in Denmark.

VLM 11y ago
It might be a cultural thing to average levels of criminality from the top and bottom. Much like Americans believe some things to be binary or some things to be a spectrum, perhaps in Denmark criminality is binary, either you are and they throw the average sized book at all of them, or you aren't. As an anecdote this is the same Denmark that went insane over a retailer selling Marmite, costing many thousands of euro in fines and punishments. That would fit the pattern of once the binary switch flips from non-criminal to criminal, a medium sized book is thrown at all miscreants. Another possible anecdote is I know their neighbors, and probably the Danes also, punish drunken driving similar to how attempted murder is treated in the US. That would also fit the theory.
- ThomPete 11y ago
  What do you mean by similar to how attempted murder is treated in the US and what US state are you talking about? Drunk driving means first getting your drivers card taken if you have too much alcohol in your blod but it requires a lot. And I am not sure what you mean punishment wise. Care to elaborate?
- varjag 11y ago
  Drunken driving is essentially an attempted manslaughter, but Scandinavian treatment of it is fairly lenient. In most cases you get away with a huge fine or a short prison term.
  - ryanlol 11y ago
    That's not true in the slightest, drunken driving laws don't measure the drivers impairment but BAC. And in any case, attempt implies intent.
    - varjag 11y ago
      > That's not true in the slightest, drunken driving laws don't measure the drivers impairment but BAC. They measure the impairment and BAC is an instrument to that. Otherwise it would be of no interest. There used to be other impairment tests, like walking the line, before breath testers became commonplace. > And in any case, attempt implies intent. As manslaughter is an unintentional killing, I thought the metaphor was fairly obvious. You know drunk drivers are prone to committing manslaughter other variables being equal, you do it anyway: well that's an attempt. Rationale behind it is irrelevant, just like noone cares you needed those money badly when you killed that cashier.
- ryanlol 11y ago
  > went insane > costing many thousands of euro Doesn't add up.

VLM 11y ago

It might be a cultural thing to average levels of criminality from the top and bottom. Much like Americans believe some things to be binary or some things to be a spectrum, perhaps in Denmark criminality is binary, either you are and they throw the average sized book at all of them, or you aren't. As an anecdote this is the same Denmark that went insane over a retailer selling Marmite, costing many thousands of euro in fines and punishments. That would fit the pattern of once the binary switch flips from non-criminal to criminal, a medium sized book is thrown at all miscreants. Another possible anecdote is I know their neighbors, and probably the Danes also, punish drunken driving similar to how attempted murder is treated in the US. That would also fit the theory.

ThomPete 11y ago
What do you mean by similar to how attempted murder is treated in the US and what US state are you talking about? Drunk driving means first getting your drivers card taken if you have too much alcohol in your blod but it requires a lot. And I am not sure what you mean punishment wise. Care to elaborate?
varjag 11y ago
Drunken driving is essentially an attempted manslaughter, but Scandinavian treatment of it is fairly lenient. In most cases you get away with a huge fine or a short prison term.
- ryanlol 11y ago
  That's not true in the slightest, drunken driving laws don't measure the drivers impairment but BAC. And in any case, attempt implies intent.
  - varjag 11y ago
    > That's not true in the slightest, drunken driving laws don't measure the drivers impairment but BAC. They measure the impairment and BAC is an instrument to that. Otherwise it would be of no interest. There used to be other impairment tests, like walking the line, before breath testers became commonplace. > And in any case, attempt implies intent. As manslaughter is an unintentional killing, I thought the metaphor was fairly obvious. You know drunk drivers are prone to committing manslaughter other variables being equal, you do it anyway: well that's an attempt. Rationale behind it is irrelevant, just like noone cares you needed those money badly when you killed that cashier.
ryanlol 11y ago
> went insane > costing many thousands of euro Doesn't add up.