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You should look up the popular YouTuber & tech CEO "Casey Neistat". He proclaims in his daily vlog, to regularly getting 4-5 hours of sleep. On top of that, h

You should look up the popular YouTuber & tech CEO "Casey Neistat". He proclaims in his daily vlog, to regularly getting 4-5 hours of sleep. On top of that, he runs 8-14 miles (at a sub 8 minute pace), nearly every day. On top of that, he has a new born, and just launched a thriving tech company - Beme. I saw a post somewhere that suggested he is likely using modafinil. I wonder how many of these uber-successful people, are using modafinil to shorten their sleep cycle?

geoelectric 11y ago
4-5 hours of sleep as a typical habit isn't that rare, unfortunately.
- rubicon33 11y ago
  I guess I don't understand how that's sustainable. I can do it for a couple of days, maybe a week. Beyond that, and my performance both physically and mentally takes a large hit. I guess it's possible that some people are blessed with super-human energy levels. It's more likely that they're on something.
  - AstralStorm 11y ago
    The real question though is whether this affects their memory, reflexes and immune system. Former is reasonably simple to test, latter requires a longer study. The problem is placebo control, which of impossible, and required monitoring to detect microsleeps and oversleeping. You would need a control group, group with day, forced 8h sleep both biphasic and monophasic, and a group on this fancy multiphasic schedule. Expensive to run.
  - geoelectric 11y ago
    Well, peoples' need for sleep does vary, but I do suspect it affects them, whether they know it or not. Caffeine is a hell of a drug too.
spotman 11y ago
4-5 hours is adequate for many people. Myself being one of them. I don't take any uppers besides coffee and find 4-5 is ideal and 6-7 makes me groggy if I can even accomplish that. Usually after 5 hours of sleep I wake up with no alarm clock wide awake.
- rubicon33 11y ago
  Do you also run 8-12 miles every day at a sub 8 minute pace, run a fledgling technology company, and have a new born child? Well, even if you don't, you're still damn lucky to have that kind of energy.
  - spotman 11y ago
    no, but I am a co-founder of a fitness startup, and try to get a lot of exercise! 8-12 miles is more than I do, and I do not have a kid.
    - rubicon33 11y ago
      I'm pretty intrigued by anyone who can honestly perform on 4-5 hours of sleep, night after night after night. To what do you attribute this ability? Have you always been a short-sleeper? Is it something you've worked toward? Is age a factor? Diet?
      - spotman 11y ago
        I'm not sure if ability is the right word but maybe? I know several people like this, my gut tells me it's not super uncommon. It was not always like this , but the older I get the less sleep I seem to need. In my 20s would feel groggy on 5 hours of sleep, but in my 30s ( current age ) I feel groggy if I get more than 5 hours sleep. I haven't been able to "sleep in" since I was probably 15 or 16. Some people probably call this being a morning person, to over simplify it heavily. Edit: if you do some light googling there is a substantial anoint of data on the internet that claims 8 hours of sleep is too much and 6 is closer to ideal for full grown adults. So getting 4-5 and a healthy dose of exercise does not seem in the realm of supernatural to me. Give it a shot! ( don't leave out the exercise either )

geoelectric 11y ago

4-5 hours of sleep as a typical habit isn't that rare, unfortunately.

rubicon33 11y ago
I guess I don't understand how that's sustainable. I can do it for a couple of days, maybe a week. Beyond that, and my performance both physically and mentally takes a large hit. I guess it's possible that some people are blessed with super-human energy levels. It's more likely that they're on something.
- AstralStorm 11y ago
  The real question though is whether this affects their memory, reflexes and immune system. Former is reasonably simple to test, latter requires a longer study. The problem is placebo control, which of impossible, and required monitoring to detect microsleeps and oversleeping. You would need a control group, group with day, forced 8h sleep both biphasic and monophasic, and a group on this fancy multiphasic schedule. Expensive to run.
- geoelectric 11y ago
  Well, peoples' need for sleep does vary, but I do suspect it affects them, whether they know it or not. Caffeine is a hell of a drug too.

spotman 11y ago

4-5 hours is adequate for many people. Myself being one of them. I don't take any uppers besides coffee and find 4-5 is ideal and 6-7 makes me groggy if I can even accomplish that. Usually after 5 hours of sleep I wake up with no alarm clock wide awake.

rubicon33 11y ago
Do you also run 8-12 miles every day at a sub 8 minute pace, run a fledgling technology company, and have a new born child? Well, even if you don't, you're still damn lucky to have that kind of energy.
- spotman 11y ago
  no, but I am a co-founder of a fitness startup, and try to get a lot of exercise! 8-12 miles is more than I do, and I do not have a kid.
  - rubicon33 11y ago
    I'm pretty intrigued by anyone who can honestly perform on 4-5 hours of sleep, night after night after night. To what do you attribute this ability? Have you always been a short-sleeper? Is it something you've worked toward? Is age a factor? Diet?
    - spotman 11y ago
      I'm not sure if ability is the right word but maybe? I know several people like this, my gut tells me it's not super uncommon. It was not always like this , but the older I get the less sleep I seem to need. In my 20s would feel groggy on 5 hours of sleep, but in my 30s ( current age ) I feel groggy if I get more than 5 hours sleep. I haven't been able to "sleep in" since I was probably 15 or 16. Some people probably call this being a morning person, to over simplify it heavily. Edit: if you do some light googling there is a substantial anoint of data on the internet that claims 8 hours of sleep is too much and 6 is closer to ideal for full grown adults. So getting 4-5 and a healthy dose of exercise does not seem in the realm of supernatural to me. Give it a shot! ( don't leave out the exercise either )