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I'm a bit surprised they decided on a CAFFE-like declarative language for specifying neural net architectures[1], instead of offering high-level software compon

by cs702 11y ago

I'm a bit surprised they decided on a CAFFE-like declarative language for specifying neural net architectures[1], instead of offering high-level software components that enable easy composition right from within a scripting language, e.g., like Python in TensorFlow's case.[2] Is there anyone from the Microsoft team here that can explain this decision? -- [1] See examples on https://github.com/Microsoft/CNTK/wiki/CNTK-usage-overview https://github.com/Microsoft/CNTK/wiki/CNTK-usage-overview [2] See examples on https://www.tensorflow.org/versions/0.6.0/get_started/index.html https://www.tensorflow.org/versions/0.6.0/get_started/index....

singularity2001 11y ago
According to their slides[1] it is planned: Quoth: "Models can be described and modified with • C++ code • Network definition language (NDL) and model editing language (MEL) • Brain Script (beta) • Python and C# (planned) " [1]http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/dongyu/CNTK-Tutorial-NIPS2015.pdf http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/dongyu/CNTK-Tu... thanks to @sharms
- boz_msft 11y ago
  Hi MSFT employee here. Yes. High-level bindings are planned and are a high priority. We will document the planned interfaces on GitHub soon.
  - canberroid 11y ago
    Thanks for letting us know. Any hand-wavy non-committal indication of how long that might be? Weeks/month, two months/more than three months?
KirinDave 11y ago
Let's hope they decide to target F#.
- pmalynin 11y ago
  I'm more interested in C# (probably target the latter with .net interop for the former)
  - KirinDave 11y ago
    It really seems though like this sort of work is more suited to the dataflow model F# promotes, though?