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There's nothing horrific about Donald Rumsfeld. He was Secretary of Defense. Was he more horrific than any other Secretary of Defense? War is horrific. So is Le

There's nothing horrific about Donald Rumsfeld. He was Secretary of Defense. Was he more horrific than any other Secretary of Defense? War is horrific. So is Leftist bias.

gregjwild 11y ago
Well, he's probably one of the worst in recent memory. It will be many, many years before the fallout from the Iraq invasion fades.
noxToken 11y ago
I guarded detainees in Afghanistan for a small stint. I can say with confidence that within the scope of war, there are actions that are more horrific than others. Having to stare into the face of a man who killed your friend a week ago is mentally taxing. The natural urge to take the butt of my rifle to his chin was nearly over-whelming, but what separates me from horrific people is that in those trying times, I still treated him like a human being. What does breaking his jaw achieve? My friend is dead. No amount of torture would ever bring him back. All I would get in return is a piece my humanity ripped from my soul as I watched a defenseless man writhe in pain. Congrats, self. Do you feel vindicated? War damn sure is horrific, but it doesn't have to be barbaric.
- sosuke 11y ago
  You nearly brought me to tears. /hug I'd hope to have that strength had I been in your position.
  - noxToken 11y ago
    I sincerely hope that you are never put into a similar position, and I really appreciate your compassion.
AndrewUnmuted 11y ago
For an apparent Objectivist, you have a very poor understanding of Rand's ideas towards intellectual honesty, and her respect for the US Constitution. Rumsfeld made a career out of flagrantly attacking these two virtues. Rand would have foamed at the mouth if she were alive for Rumsfeld's many lies. You don't have to be a Marxist to know that Donald Rumsfeld is an immoral man and a war criminal, who was directly implicated in the torture of innocent civilians of the United States and other allied nations. You ought to read OPAR and IOE a bit closer, next time. You also may want to read a newspaper that isn't owned by Rupert Murdock.
- Randgalt 11y ago
  :D nice trolling.
cholantesh 11y ago
Rumsfeld's career is the stuff of Trotsky's wildest dreams, so yeah, I guess you're right.

There's nothing horrific about Donald Rumsfeld. He was Secretary of Defense. Was he more horrific than any other Secretary of Defense? War is horrific. So is Leftist bias.

gregjwild 11y ago

Well, he's probably one of the worst in recent memory. It will be many, many years before the fallout from the Iraq invasion fades.

noxToken 11y ago

I guarded detainees in Afghanistan for a small stint. I can say with confidence that within the scope of war, there are actions that are more horrific than others. Having to stare into the face of a man who killed your friend a week ago is mentally taxing. The natural urge to take the butt of my rifle to his chin was nearly over-whelming, but what separates me from horrific people is that in those trying times, I still treated him like a human being. What does breaking his jaw achieve? My friend is dead. No amount of torture would ever bring him back. All I would get in return is a piece my humanity ripped from my soul as I watched a defenseless man writhe in pain. Congrats, self. Do you feel vindicated? War damn sure is horrific, but it doesn't have to be barbaric.

sosuke 11y ago
You nearly brought me to tears. /hug I'd hope to have that strength had I been in your position.
- noxToken 11y ago
  I sincerely hope that you are never put into a similar position, and I really appreciate your compassion.

AndrewUnmuted 11y ago

For an apparent Objectivist, you have a very poor understanding of Rand's ideas towards intellectual honesty, and her respect for the US Constitution. Rumsfeld made a career out of flagrantly attacking these two virtues. Rand would have foamed at the mouth if she were alive for Rumsfeld's many lies. You don't have to be a Marxist to know that Donald Rumsfeld is an immoral man and a war criminal, who was directly implicated in the torture of innocent civilians of the United States and other allied nations. You ought to read OPAR and IOE a bit closer, next time. You also may want to read a newspaper that isn't owned by Rupert Murdock.

Randgalt 11y ago
:D nice trolling.

cholantesh 11y ago

Rumsfeld's career is the stuff of Trotsky's wildest dreams, so yeah, I guess you're right.