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If they are really the same then it doesn't matter of course. One advantage might be that everyone's heard of the public domain, I have never heard of CC0. I wo

If they are really the same then it doesn't matter of course. One advantage might be that everyone's heard of the public domain, I have never heard of CC0. I would not know what restrictions there are to that without reading the license carefully. But reading "public domain" tells me everything I need to know. In fact the web page explaining CC0 is kind of confusing, and links to an even longer FAQ. And with the public domain, you don't even need a license, just write "Public Domain" where you would normally write "Copyright 2016", and it's done. Why use a license at all when the public domain exists?

slavik81 11y ago
> Why use a license at all when the public domain exists? > About CC0 - "No Rights Reserved": > The Problem > Dedicating works to the public domain is difficult if not impossible for those wanting to contribute their works for public use before applicable copyright or database protection terms expire. Few if any jurisdictions have a process for doing so easily and reliably. Laws vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction as to what rights are automatically granted and how and when they expire or may be voluntarily relinquished. More challenging yet, many legal systems effectively prohibit any attempt by these owners to surrender rights automatically conferred by law, particularly moral rights, even when the author wishing to do so is well informed and resolute about doing so and contributing their work to the public domain > A Solution > CC0 helps solve this problem by giving creators a way to waive all their copyright and related rights in their works to the fullest extent allowed by law. CC0 is a universal instrument that is not adapted to the laws of any particular legal jurisdiction, similar to many open source software licenses. And while no tool, not even CC0, can guarantee a complete relinquishment of all copyright and database rights in every jurisdiction, we believe it provides the best and most complete alternative for contributing a work to the public domain given the many complex and diverse copyright and database systems around the world. https://creativecommons.org/about/cc0/ https://creativecommons.org/about/cc0/
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cyphar 11y ago
Not all jurisdictions have a concept of public domain. To claim that "public domain is good enough" is to ignore the 80% of the world that doesn't have the same copyright system as you.
- Houshalter 11y ago
  What countries? Has anyone in those countries ever been sued by using public domain works? And if they don't respect Public Domain, why would they respect the CC0 license? How is writing "CC0" on the bottom of the page any different than writing "Public Domain" on the bottom of the page?
  - voxic11 11y ago
    The CC0 license is long because it attempts to get as close to public domain in as many jurisdictions as possible.
  - cyphar 11y ago
    > What countries? Has anyone in those countries ever been sued by using public domain works? It's a question of "can you willfully put your work in the public domain", not " is there an expiry on copyright". It's also possible that some company's lawyers might get unhappy if their company uses such a work. > And if they don't respect Public Domain, why would they respect the CC0 license? Becuase they still have copyright law, they just don't have a concept of public donation. >How is writing "CC0" on the bottom of the page any different than writing "Public Domain" on the bottom of the page? In western countries there's essentially no difference. But because CC0 is an actual legal document that has provisions for jurisdictions that don't recognise public domain as a concept, it's a significant difference.
Vespasian 11y ago
Well in my legislation a work becomes public domain only after all of its original authors have been dead 70 years. There is no way to wave all rights before that. CC0 clears up this and similar issues arising when you are licensing your work to a global audience

slavik81 11y ago

> Why use a license at all when the public domain exists? > About CC0 - "No Rights Reserved": > The Problem > Dedicating works to the public domain is difficult if not impossible for those wanting to contribute their works for public use before applicable copyright or database protection terms expire. Few if any jurisdictions have a process for doing so easily and reliably. Laws vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction as to what rights are automatically granted and how and when they expire or may be voluntarily relinquished. More challenging yet, many legal systems effectively prohibit any attempt by these owners to surrender rights automatically conferred by law, particularly moral rights, even when the author wishing to do so is well informed and resolute about doing so and contributing their work to the public domain > A Solution > CC0 helps solve this problem by giving creators a way to waive all their copyright and related rights in their works to the fullest extent allowed by law. CC0 is a universal instrument that is not adapted to the laws of any particular legal jurisdiction, similar to many open source software licenses. And while no tool, not even CC0, can guarantee a complete relinquishment of all copyright and database rights in every jurisdiction, we believe it provides the best and most complete alternative for contributing a work to the public domain given the many complex and diverse copyright and database systems around the world. https://creativecommons.org/about/cc0/ https://creativecommons.org/about/cc0/

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cyphar 11y ago

Not all jurisdictions have a concept of public domain. To claim that "public domain is good enough" is to ignore the 80% of the world that doesn't have the same copyright system as you.

Houshalter 11y ago
What countries? Has anyone in those countries ever been sued by using public domain works? And if they don't respect Public Domain, why would they respect the CC0 license? How is writing "CC0" on the bottom of the page any different than writing "Public Domain" on the bottom of the page?
- voxic11 11y ago
  The CC0 license is long because it attempts to get as close to public domain in as many jurisdictions as possible.
- cyphar 11y ago
  > What countries? Has anyone in those countries ever been sued by using public domain works? It's a question of "can you willfully put your work in the public domain", not " is there an expiry on copyright". It's also possible that some company's lawyers might get unhappy if their company uses such a work. > And if they don't respect Public Domain, why would they respect the CC0 license? Becuase they still have copyright law, they just don't have a concept of public donation. >How is writing "CC0" on the bottom of the page any different than writing "Public Domain" on the bottom of the page? In western countries there's essentially no difference. But because CC0 is an actual legal document that has provisions for jurisdictions that don't recognise public domain as a concept, it's a significant difference.

Vespasian 11y ago

Well in my legislation a work becomes public domain only after all of its original authors have been dead 70 years. There is no way to wave all rights before that. CC0 clears up this and similar issues arising when you are licensing your work to a global audience