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> Primordial instinctive fears are required for survival of all living things. It is one thing to regurgitate a widely believed aphorism, but an entirely anoth

by sridca 11y ago

> Primordial instinctive fears are required for survival of all living things. It is one thing to regurgitate a widely believed aphorism, but an entirely another thing to justify it with facts. Primordial instinctive fear is not required for the human species. Name one example where it is required (where an intelligent response is deemed insufficient).

dawnbreez 11y ago
Tiger.
LinuxBender 11y ago
Certainly. 1. Here is an example of reckless behavior associated with a lack of fear as it pertains to humans taking anti-fear drugs. [1] http://news.nationalpost.com/news/there-was-no-fear-anymore-the-tiny-pill-fuelling-syrias-war-and-giving-fighters-superhuman-energy http://news.nationalpost.com/news/there-was-no-fear-anymore-... And then there are studies of animals changing their behavior to be more reckless. I am curious to see your thoughts on correlation of animal and human testing. [2] https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2011/03/scientists-discover-anti-anxiety-circuit-in-brain-region-considered-the-seat-of-fear.html https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2011/03/scientists-di...
- sridca 11y ago
  Reckless behaviour is not associated with lack of fear, as reckless behaviour is not uncommon among normal human adults with fear intact (also the aforementioned drug does more than inhibiting fear). If one is going about life "without thinking or caring about the consequences of an action", that is more a sign of being unintelligent (quite often a case of native intelligence being hampered by such strong emotions as ideological feelings) than merely being fearless. Animals (especially early primate ancestors of humans) do not have fully developed intelligence, so it not unsurprising that they unlike us require primitive emotions such as fear to survive as a species.
  - LinuxBender 11y ago
    So basically what you are saying is that all of the testing done on animals prior to humans as a requirement to get FDA approval is not valid. Perhaps I agree with you on that part.
LinuxBender 11y ago
Here is another great learning resource on human group and individual behavior. Sorry, I know it is a long documentary. This covers in great depth how fears and wants affect people. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s
- sridca 11y ago
  I remember seeing this documentary a few years ago. When one considers ill effects of fear, often stuff like PTSD and phobias come to mind. But normal people too are adversely affected by fear on a daily basis. As this documentary shows the masses are easily influenced (via fear) by propaganda/ public relations to make decisions that are not in their own best interest.

by sridca 11y ago

dawnbreez 11y ago

Tiger.

LinuxBender 11y ago

Certainly. 1. Here is an example of reckless behavior associated with a lack of fear as it pertains to humans taking anti-fear drugs. [1] http://news.nationalpost.com/news/there-was-no-fear-anymore-the-tiny-pill-fuelling-syrias-war-and-giving-fighters-superhuman-energy http://news.nationalpost.com/news/there-was-no-fear-anymore-... And then there are studies of animals changing their behavior to be more reckless. I am curious to see your thoughts on correlation of animal and human testing. [2] https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2011/03/scientists-discover-anti-anxiety-circuit-in-brain-region-considered-the-seat-of-fear.html https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2011/03/scientists-di...

sridca 11y ago
Reckless behaviour is not associated with lack of fear, as reckless behaviour is not uncommon among normal human adults with fear intact (also the aforementioned drug does more than inhibiting fear). If one is going about life "without thinking or caring about the consequences of an action", that is more a sign of being unintelligent (quite often a case of native intelligence being hampered by such strong emotions as ideological feelings) than merely being fearless. Animals (especially early primate ancestors of humans) do not have fully developed intelligence, so it not unsurprising that they unlike us require primitive emotions such as fear to survive as a species.
- LinuxBender 11y ago
  So basically what you are saying is that all of the testing done on animals prior to humans as a requirement to get FDA approval is not valid. Perhaps I agree with you on that part.

LinuxBender 11y ago

Here is another great learning resource on human group and individual behavior. Sorry, I know it is a long documentary. This covers in great depth how fears and wants affect people. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s

sridca 11y ago
I remember seeing this documentary a few years ago. When one considers ill effects of fear, often stuff like PTSD and phobias come to mind. But normal people too are adversely affected by fear on a daily basis. As this documentary shows the masses are easily influenced (via fear) by propaganda/ public relations to make decisions that are not in their own best interest.