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> So hostile. I'm not the one releasing devices that don't support Flash but do support HTML and JavaScript. If Apple wants to give Adobe the finger, they have

by tomlin 17y ago

> So hostile. I'm not the one releasing devices that don't support Flash but do support HTML and JavaScript. If Apple wants to give Adobe the finger, they have every right to and I can't/won't argue it because it is their business logic. Are they billionaires? Yes? I support HTML5 and it's apparent "crushing" effect on Flash, but call it like it is. Your entire original comment is so far into the future that Marty McFly and the Doc would possibly need to go to 78mp/h in the Delorean just to see it in the horizon. HTML5 is great, but it's not going to change the world and dethrone Flash anytime soon. Saying that or anything of that nature is dishonest and completely without evidence.

jrockway 17y ago
HTML5 is great, but it's not going to change the world and dethrone Flash anytime soon. Saying that or anything of that nature is dishonest and completely without evidence. Isn't that what everyone said about Firefox and Safari? I think Apple has enough fanbois in the design industry to say, "Apple's not supporting Flash very well anymore; maybe I will try a plain HTML design for this site." There may be a lot of money in flashy Flash sites, but I can't recall ever visiting one intentionally. Most of the Web's needs are met by plain HTML these days, and the few sites that have a good technical reason for using Flash (YouTube) are very close to being able to move away. Going back to my original point, an IDE that let people construct the usual flashy Flash with HTML5 and JavaScript would be a good product for Adobe to have. It future-proofs them. Every user with a web browser has a web browser, but only 98.whatever percent have Flash. Why artificially limit yourself to 98% of the Internet?
- tomlin 17y ago
  > Why artificially limit yourself to 98% of the Internet? You shouldn't. But you're telling yourself that 100% of the users on the 'net will be using an HTML5+JS power browser. See how that doesn't make sense?

by tomlin 17y ago

jrockway 17y ago

HTML5 is great, but it's not going to change the world and dethrone Flash anytime soon. Saying that or anything of that nature is dishonest and completely without evidence. Isn't that what everyone said about Firefox and Safari? I think Apple has enough fanbois in the design industry to say, "Apple's not supporting Flash very well anymore; maybe I will try a plain HTML design for this site." There may be a lot of money in flashy Flash sites, but I can't recall ever visiting one intentionally. Most of the Web's needs are met by plain HTML these days, and the few sites that have a good technical reason for using Flash (YouTube) are very close to being able to move away. Going back to my original point, an IDE that let people construct the usual flashy Flash with HTML5 and JavaScript would be a good product for Adobe to have. It future-proofs them. Every user with a web browser has a web browser, but only 98.whatever percent have Flash. Why artificially limit yourself to 98% of the Internet?

tomlin 17y ago
> Why artificially limit yourself to 98% of the Internet? You shouldn't. But you're telling yourself that 100% of the users on the 'net will be using an HTML5+JS power browser. See how that doesn't make sense?