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In the short run, too :) Do you know anywhere better to post? (I have some places, but not enough.) Edit: I do think there are (multiple) solutions. One invo
by curi 19y ago
In the short run, too :)
Do you know anywhere better to post? (I have some places, but not enough.)
Edit:
I do think there are (multiple) solutions. One involves using rhetorical devices so the other person looks bad. But I don't like to do that.
You can also use humor or sarcasm to get more people to agree with you. But that kind of agreement is different than understanding.
You can also get some sort of authority (PhD and published books, say) and then people are more inclined to ask about what you know instead of being extremely confident they know best. But that's a lot of trouble just to impress silly people.
And I could go on with other imperfect solutions. But anyway, I am optimistic that there is a good solution to be found.
- rms 19y agoIf I say something short meant to be funny and I get immediately downmodded, I usually delete the post, rather than sit around and wait for it to get downmodded more. In my case, anyways, the secret to karma is volume. If you keep posting a lot, you get upmodded more than downmodded. I know nowhere better to post. Maybe www.well.com?
- curi 19y agoI don't want karma, I want to persuade people of good ideas. I only care about downmods in that they give information about how people are reacting, and I need positive reactions to persuade people. I learn more about how people act if I don't delete my posts. For example, I can see that they are happy to mass downmod without ever giving a good reason. Now I have lots of evidence :) I think they somehow feel that because the site allows downmods, and makes my post turn grey in response, that somehow makes their take more legitimate. It reminds me of how people feel bad if you say they are dumb (or whatever else), and expect you to do the same if they say you are dumb. The issue foremost in their minds is not whether good reasons were given, but something else, I think about legitimacy. Statements not put down are legit in that sense. Which is why when people insult you, "you have not given evidence for your claim" is no good in terms of persuading a group (this seems to acknowledge the issue is up for debate -- ie, grant it legitimacy), and a counter-insult works well (which evens the score). Will try well.com
- rms 19y agoIf you actually check out well.com, you should make a blog post and submit it here, I'm curious what it is like.