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Seems we're at maximum comment depth.. In answer to your question: no. I'm not blaming anyone who turned up to vote. I'm blaming those who didn't turn up to vo

by spangry 11y ago

Seems we're at maximum comment depth.. In answer to your question: no. I'm not blaming anyone who turned up to vote. I'm blaming those who didn't turn up to vote. http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics/CPS%20age.png?attredirects=0 http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics/... The most recent data from the US Census Bureau indicates that the turnout rate for the 18-29 age group is at the lowest it's ever been since at least 1986 (this is as far back as the charted data goes). They are the age group with the lowest participation.

soared 11y ago
Shame its a download from some random website. Do you happen to have an img?
- spangry 11y ago
  Huh, that link didn't turn out as planned... It's from this page http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics/ http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics/ (3rd chart on page). I think the charts were made using data found here: http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/socdemo/voting/ http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/socdemo/voting/
  - soared 11y ago
    Awesome thanks man
hiram112 11y ago
Would you blame those that didn't vote in the one-candidate elections held in the Soviet Union? How bout the recent Venezuelan 'elections '? Now ask yourself just how much more honest are the national elections in the US are these days? What's that saying... "If voting mattered, they wouldn't let you do it."
- spangry 11y ago
  Do you truly believe American democracy is so far gone that it's comparable to 'democracy' in the former Soviet Union? For me, I honestly couldn't say with any certainty (I'm not an American). From an outsider's perspective, I don't perceive American elections as being anywhere close to one-candidate Soviet Union elections. Heck, even the 'primaries' process that your major parties use to select presidential nominees seems to create greater scope for the public to influence outcomes. Not that the US system is without its problems: - Administratively, the way US elections are run is worthy of a third world banana republic. I find it astounding that gerrymandering and 'vote caging' are routine occurrences in a country that espouses such a strong belief in democracy. - 'First past the post' is a terrible voting system that guarantees a 2 party system. However, so does Ranked preference/Instant run-off voting (despite what its advocates think). - US public political discourse does seem to be influenced, to a relatively greater degree, by powerful private interests and god knows who else... - [This is a bit controversial] Voluntary voting leads to worse outcomes compared to compulsory voting. The greatest virtue of CV is that politicians are forced to consider minorities or cohorts that would otherwise have low turnout rates under voluntary systems.

by spangry 11y ago

soared 11y ago

Shame its a download from some random website. Do you happen to have an img?

spangry 11y ago
Huh, that link didn't turn out as planned... It's from this page http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics/ http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics/ (3rd chart on page). I think the charts were made using data found here: http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/socdemo/voting/ http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/socdemo/voting/
- soared 11y ago
  Awesome thanks man

hiram112 11y ago

Would you blame those that didn't vote in the one-candidate elections held in the Soviet Union? How bout the recent Venezuelan 'elections '? Now ask yourself just how much more honest are the national elections in the US are these days? What's that saying... "If voting mattered, they wouldn't let you do it."

spangry 11y ago
Do you truly believe American democracy is so far gone that it's comparable to 'democracy' in the former Soviet Union? For me, I honestly couldn't say with any certainty (I'm not an American). From an outsider's perspective, I don't perceive American elections as being anywhere close to one-candidate Soviet Union elections. Heck, even the 'primaries' process that your major parties use to select presidential nominees seems to create greater scope for the public to influence outcomes. Not that the US system is without its problems: - Administratively, the way US elections are run is worthy of a third world banana republic. I find it astounding that gerrymandering and 'vote caging' are routine occurrences in a country that espouses such a strong belief in democracy. - 'First past the post' is a terrible voting system that guarantees a 2 party system. However, so does Ranked preference/Instant run-off voting (despite what its advocates think). - US public political discourse does seem to be influenced, to a relatively greater degree, by powerful private interests and god knows who else... - [This is a bit controversial] Voluntary voting leads to worse outcomes compared to compulsory voting. The greatest virtue of CV is that politicians are forced to consider minorities or cohorts that would otherwise have low turnout rates under voluntary systems.