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Thanks. I realize how premature my wish is but unfortunately not in my qualifications to help on the project. Modern group chat and Kanban are two apps my users

Thanks. I realize how premature my wish is but unfortunately not in my qualifications to help on the project. Modern group chat and Kanban are two apps my users desperately want and I can't deliver unless I capitulate to our cloud overlords, such a sad state of the industry.

bovermyer 11y ago
Wouldn't Mattermost solve the group chat issue for you?
webXL 11y ago
This sentiment is what's sad. You appear to want something good, free and quick. Life is all about picking 2. Accept that and be happy.
- medlazik 11y ago
  Who said I wanted it to be free? I'm also in France and our clients don't want us to manage their projects on American servers.
  - berkay 11y ago
    You can get a self hosted HipChat for the group chat.
    - medlazik 11y ago
      We've had a pilot for 6 months, users stopped using it. Something's fishy with the HipChat team. They've been asked to fix iPhone notifications[0] for more than a year now and all I see is new emoticons and silly features. Nobody with an iPhone can use HipChat, no wonder everyone went to Slack. Smells like internal sabotage, crazy stuff really. [0]https://help.hipchat.com/forums/138883-suggestions-ideas/suggestions/3830661-iphone-don-t-seem-to-be-receiving-any-notification https://help.hipchat.com/forums/138883-suggestions-ideas/sug...
joeyspn 11y ago
> Modern group chat [...] There's another great Meteor project named Rocket Chat that you should check out... https://rocket.chat/ https://rocket.chat/
- medlazik 11y ago
  We've tried them all and unfortunately none of them are ready for prime time. Rocket chat and Mattermost are the ones I'm the most looking forward to, looks like they should be ready in a few months. HipChat Server looks ready but it's not, way too many problems they're not willing to address for whatever reasons.
  - detaro 11y ago
    Did you document your issues somewhere publicly? (blog post?) A good comparison of the options would be interesting to have, since the topic seems to come up quite often.
    - medlazik 11y ago
      I haven't but it's a good idea.

bovermyer 11y ago

Wouldn't Mattermost solve the group chat issue for you?

webXL 11y ago

This sentiment is what's sad. You appear to want something good, free and quick. Life is all about picking 2. Accept that and be happy.

medlazik 11y ago
Who said I wanted it to be free? I'm also in France and our clients don't want us to manage their projects on American servers.
- berkay 11y ago
  You can get a self hosted HipChat for the group chat.
  - medlazik 11y ago
    We've had a pilot for 6 months, users stopped using it. Something's fishy with the HipChat team. They've been asked to fix iPhone notifications[0] for more than a year now and all I see is new emoticons and silly features. Nobody with an iPhone can use HipChat, no wonder everyone went to Slack. Smells like internal sabotage, crazy stuff really. [0]https://help.hipchat.com/forums/138883-suggestions-ideas/suggestions/3830661-iphone-don-t-seem-to-be-receiving-any-notification https://help.hipchat.com/forums/138883-suggestions-ideas/sug...

joeyspn 11y ago

> Modern group chat [...] There's another great Meteor project named Rocket Chat that you should check out... https://rocket.chat/ https://rocket.chat/

medlazik 11y ago
We've tried them all and unfortunately none of them are ready for prime time. Rocket chat and Mattermost are the ones I'm the most looking forward to, looks like they should be ready in a few months. HipChat Server looks ready but it's not, way too many problems they're not willing to address for whatever reasons.
- detaro 11y ago
  Did you document your issues somewhere publicly? (blog post?) A good comparison of the options would be interesting to have, since the topic seems to come up quite often.
  - medlazik 11y ago
    I haven't but it's a good idea.