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If the Woz says there is some sort of software malfunction I think those talking Toyota puppets blitzing the airwaves should take a moment, pick up the phone an

If the Woz says there is some sort of software malfunction I think those talking Toyota puppets blitzing the airwaves should take a moment, pick up the phone and ask Woz for his input. What happened to the good 'ol days of harikiri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku)? I'm not really suggesting that Toyota top brass should start sharpening their knives ;) But if anyone following this story over the last year or two can say that there isn't a coverup afoot here, I'll eat crow. The proverbial heads should be rolling at Toyota. [edit] typos

bdfh42 17y ago
There does not have to be a conspiracy here (even of silence) but you are correct - if the Woz says there is a software glitch then a software glitch there is. If the Toyota guys can't find it then - yes - they should ask someone who can find it.
- siculars 17y ago
  I foresee many a class action lawsuit followed potentially by a congressional investigation of not only Toyota, but of the larger automotive industries continued encroachment of electrical systems and their software components in the most fundamental aspects of the automobile. I can only hope for a mighty public outcry and backlash against these opaque practices. It's one thing to convert more systems from mechanics to electronics. It's another thing to wrap the entire thing in secrecy and obfuscation. Ralph Nader should be leading the charge on this.
- GrandMasterBirt 17y ago
  Woz != god. Woz != says so therefore it most likely is so. However if he can reproduce this quite easily then there is probably a software bug. And Toyota can't afford a recall. Honestly this just has to be taken to courts, its the driving force of our economy.
  - acangiano 17y ago
    > Woz != god. Woz != says so therefore it most likely is so. It doesn't mean that he is necessarily right, but he is definitely worth paying attention to.
cmallen 17y ago
>preverbal proverbial
- siculars 17y ago
  duly noted. thanks!
ars 17y ago
He posted the details of the problem (3 months ago) on slashdot: http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1430048&cid=29973870 http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1430048&cid=299...
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- mmastrac 17y ago
  Thanks for posting that. It seems to match up exactly with the problem vaguely described in the linked article. Scary.

bdfh42 17y ago

There does not have to be a conspiracy here (even of silence) but you are correct - if the Woz says there is a software glitch then a software glitch there is. If the Toyota guys can't find it then - yes - they should ask someone who can find it.

siculars 17y ago
I foresee many a class action lawsuit followed potentially by a congressional investigation of not only Toyota, but of the larger automotive industries continued encroachment of electrical systems and their software components in the most fundamental aspects of the automobile. I can only hope for a mighty public outcry and backlash against these opaque practices. It's one thing to convert more systems from mechanics to electronics. It's another thing to wrap the entire thing in secrecy and obfuscation. Ralph Nader should be leading the charge on this.
GrandMasterBirt 17y ago
Woz != god. Woz != says so therefore it most likely is so. However if he can reproduce this quite easily then there is probably a software bug. And Toyota can't afford a recall. Honestly this just has to be taken to courts, its the driving force of our economy.
- acangiano 17y ago
  > Woz != god. Woz != says so therefore it most likely is so. It doesn't mean that he is necessarily right, but he is definitely worth paying attention to.

cmallen 17y ago

>preverbal proverbial

siculars 17y ago
duly noted. thanks!

ars 17y ago

He posted the details of the problem (3 months ago) on slashdot: http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1430048&cid=29973870 http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1430048&cid=299...

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mmastrac 17y ago
Thanks for posting that. It seems to match up exactly with the problem vaguely described in the linked article. Scary.