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Yes a noble sentiment. Let's shove stuff down people's throats for greater good. Let me ask you a simple question - who gets to decide what stuff should or sho

Yes a noble sentiment. Let's shove stuff down people's throats for greater good. Let me ask you a simple question - who gets to decide what stuff should or should not be shoved down people's throats? Because it may so transpire that you might find yourself quite soon in a position where you are going to say: "To save this village and its villagers we have to slay everybody and burn it to the ground."

skj 11y ago
Yeah when I think of selling female action figures I immediately make the leap to murder.
geofft 11y ago
> Let me ask you a simple question - who gets to decide what stuff should or should not be shoved down people's throats? The people whose throats they are being shoved down, i.e., the consumers. Right now you have a situation where Rey action figures are unavailable to consumers who want to buy them, because some marketing executives thought they knew what people wanted better than the people themselves. Did you even read the headline? (I'm not even going to ask about the article.)
- burntsushi 11y ago
  > Right now you have a situation where Rey action figures are unavailable to consumers who want to buy them What are you talking about? How did you arrive to the conclusion that they are unavailable? http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=rey+action+figure http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3D... > because some marketing executives thought they knew what people wanted better than the people themselves. Isn't that pretty much what marketing is in the first place?
  - captn3m0 11y ago
    "rey action figure star wars" - 199 results "kylo ren action figure star wars" - 341 results Most of Rey figures were announced after the backlash. Anecdotally, I went around shopping and was able to find everything SW, except for a Rey figure. They even had action figures for minor characters in the Rebels series, but no Rey.
    - burntsushi 11y ago
      I just don't understand the certainty on your part. Was it because of the backlash or because they wanted Rey's prominence as a character to not be spoiled? Either seem plenty reasonable to me, and until there's evidence of the contrary, I don't really see what folks are on about.
trw0012 11y ago
> Let me ask you a simple question - who gets to decide what stuff should or should not be shoved down people's throats? Why the enlightened progressives of course. It's for our best. Anyone who disagrees is just morally wrong and must be shamed and silenced.
- foolrush 11y ago
  And you should be. Shame is another facet in cultural value enforcement.
- dang 11y ago
  This account's comments are not a legitimate use of HN and we've banned it. Fanning ideological flames is the opposite of the thoughtful discussion HN is looking for. If you're going to comment here, please do so civilly and substantively. That doesn't mean changing your views, but it does mean eschewing agitprop.
imgabe 11y ago
Because having a product available for sale constitutes it being "shoved down our throat"? You must feel awfully afflicted every time you enter a store. So many things being shoved down your throat. How do you even function?
dang 11y ago
Please don't take HN threads into generic flamewars. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10958155 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10958155 and marked it off-topic.

skj 11y ago

Yeah when I think of selling female action figures I immediately make the leap to murder.

geofft 11y ago

> Let me ask you a simple question - who gets to decide what stuff should or should not be shoved down people's throats? The people whose throats they are being shoved down, i.e., the consumers. Right now you have a situation where Rey action figures are unavailable to consumers who want to buy them, because some marketing executives thought they knew what people wanted better than the people themselves. Did you even read the headline? (I'm not even going to ask about the article.)

burntsushi 11y ago
> Right now you have a situation where Rey action figures are unavailable to consumers who want to buy them What are you talking about? How did you arrive to the conclusion that they are unavailable? http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=rey+action+figure http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3D... > because some marketing executives thought they knew what people wanted better than the people themselves. Isn't that pretty much what marketing is in the first place?
- captn3m0 11y ago
  "rey action figure star wars" - 199 results "kylo ren action figure star wars" - 341 results Most of Rey figures were announced after the backlash. Anecdotally, I went around shopping and was able to find everything SW, except for a Rey figure. They even had action figures for minor characters in the Rebels series, but no Rey.
  - burntsushi 11y ago
    I just don't understand the certainty on your part. Was it because of the backlash or because they wanted Rey's prominence as a character to not be spoiled? Either seem plenty reasonable to me, and until there's evidence of the contrary, I don't really see what folks are on about.

trw0012 11y ago

> Let me ask you a simple question - who gets to decide what stuff should or should not be shoved down people's throats? Why the enlightened progressives of course. It's for our best. Anyone who disagrees is just morally wrong and must be shamed and silenced.

foolrush 11y ago
And you should be. Shame is another facet in cultural value enforcement.
dang 11y ago
This account's comments are not a legitimate use of HN and we've banned it. Fanning ideological flames is the opposite of the thoughtful discussion HN is looking for. If you're going to comment here, please do so civilly and substantively. That doesn't mean changing your views, but it does mean eschewing agitprop.

imgabe 11y ago

Because having a product available for sale constitutes it being "shoved down our throat"? You must feel awfully afflicted every time you enter a store. So many things being shoved down your throat. How do you even function?

dang 11y ago

Please don't take HN threads into generic flamewars. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10958155 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10958155 and marked it off-topic.